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neumanning by LeRoiDesOiseaux October 6, 2012
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Cathy Newmaning
When you're in the middle of a discussion and you make a point, and the other person starts rattling off straw men versions of your comment and trying to make you defend the words they just put in your mouth, they are "Cathy Newmaning" you. Named after an infamous debate between Jordan Peterson and Cathy Newman.
Alex: Apples are different than oranges
Brenda: So you're saying apples are superior to oranges. So you're saying oranges should be treated less well than apples. So you're saying we should stop growing oranges and only grow apples from now on. So you're saying it's OK to burn orange trees because they are a blight on the environment. So you're saying....
Alex: Lol, damn I ain't say none a that shit, quit Cathy Newmaning me
Brenda: So you're saying apples are superior to oranges. So you're saying oranges should be treated less well than apples. So you're saying we should stop growing oranges and only grow apples from now on. So you're saying it's OK to burn orange trees because they are a blight on the environment. So you're saying....
Alex: Lol, damn I ain't say none a that shit, quit Cathy Newmaning me
Cathy Newmaning by bemorechadlike June 28, 2020
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neumaning by Iamawaysneumaning August 5, 2011
Newmanning
verb
1.
Deliberately misunderstanding an interlocutor, in bad faith, with the intention of mischaracterizing said interlocutor’s position in order to morally impugn her/him
2.
Misrepresenting a given position of an interlocutor and committing her/him more to bizarre and/or morally reprehensible ones.
(Esp. if the given position is a descriptive one, and it is misrepresented as a prescriptive one)
3.
After an interlocutor has taken a given position (as indicated by an action, set of actions, part of a statement, a statement, and/or a set of statements), prefacing with an indicator that the following mischaracterization is in fact an accurate representation of the position (e.g. "so, what you're saying is..."), and them misrepresenting the position, esp. when a neutral descriptive position is misrepresented as a bizarre and/or reprehensible prescriptive position.
Variants:
Newmaning
Related terms:
Straw-man Strawman Strawmanning Straw-manning Mischaracterization Mischaracterizing Misrepresentation Misrepresenting Logical fallacy Logical fallacies Sophistry Lies Lying Pilpul Jordan Peterson SJW Frame Ideologue
1.
Deliberately misunderstanding an interlocutor, in bad faith, with the intention of mischaracterizing said interlocutor’s position in order to morally impugn her/him
2.
Misrepresenting a given position of an interlocutor and committing her/him more to bizarre and/or morally reprehensible ones.
(Esp. if the given position is a descriptive one, and it is misrepresented as a prescriptive one)
3.
After an interlocutor has taken a given position (as indicated by an action, set of actions, part of a statement, a statement, and/or a set of statements), prefacing with an indicator that the following mischaracterization is in fact an accurate representation of the position (e.g. "so, what you're saying is..."), and them misrepresenting the position, esp. when a neutral descriptive position is misrepresented as a bizarre and/or reprehensible prescriptive position.
Variants:
Newmaning
Related terms:
Straw-man Strawman Strawmanning Straw-manning Mischaracterization Mischaracterizing Misrepresentation Misrepresenting Logical fallacy Logical fallacies Sophistry Lies Lying Pilpul Jordan Peterson SJW Frame Ideologue
1
C:
"So you're saying"
*Bad faith misunderstanding*
"in your research,women are unhappy"
*mischaracterizing*
"dominating men"
*morally impugning(J's SexRel descriptions as vulgar D/s prescriptions)*
J:
Newman!
2
W:
Here:a pic of you with a Pepe flag;Pepe is called a hate symbol by the Left
J:
You're a.deliberately misunderstanding what Pepe is & what it stands for,b.mischaracterizing me as shamefully complicit in,or ignorant of what what you think Pepe really means&overstating the judgement of the Left;&c.morally impugning me implying I support hate:ergo Newmanning
3
P:
Anti-"Chain Migrant"(CM) Conservatives want to remove from Americans the right to sponsor family
S:
The more American your family is,the less you possess "right" to sponsor CM.There's a net negative impact from a "right" to sponsor CM, including nepotism.
P:
So,your concept of 'real' Americans is those who aren't immigrants or their families.Only Natives apply.Racist
S:
Think before castigating.If you're a US citizen but your family members aren't,you get to sponsor them as CM.If they're Americans,however,you don't have any privilege to sponsor CM. When you say"So,your concept of",it's to preface a deliberate bad-faith misunderstanding,equivalent to"what you're saying is"; when you say"your concept of 'real' Americans is those who aren't immigrants or their families.Only Natives apply",it's mischaracterizing my position; when you say"Racist", it's to morally impugn me:you Newmanner
C:
"So you're saying"
*Bad faith misunderstanding*
"in your research,women are unhappy"
*mischaracterizing*
"dominating men"
*morally impugning(J's SexRel descriptions as vulgar D/s prescriptions)*
J:
Newman!
2
W:
Here:a pic of you with a Pepe flag;Pepe is called a hate symbol by the Left
J:
You're a.deliberately misunderstanding what Pepe is & what it stands for,b.mischaracterizing me as shamefully complicit in,or ignorant of what what you think Pepe really means&overstating the judgement of the Left;&c.morally impugning me implying I support hate:ergo Newmanning
3
P:
Anti-"Chain Migrant"(CM) Conservatives want to remove from Americans the right to sponsor family
S:
The more American your family is,the less you possess "right" to sponsor CM.There's a net negative impact from a "right" to sponsor CM, including nepotism.
P:
So,your concept of 'real' Americans is those who aren't immigrants or their families.Only Natives apply.Racist
S:
Think before castigating.If you're a US citizen but your family members aren't,you get to sponsor them as CM.If they're Americans,however,you don't have any privilege to sponsor CM. When you say"So,your concept of",it's to preface a deliberate bad-faith misunderstanding,equivalent to"what you're saying is"; when you say"your concept of 'real' Americans is those who aren't immigrants or their families.Only Natives apply",it's mischaracterizing my position; when you say"Racist", it's to morally impugn me:you Newmanner
Newmanning by NewmannerExtraordinaire February 7, 2018
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