The Villain

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The Villain smells bad

The Villain by fleerter September 3, 2025

The Villain Edit 

When reality shows edit someone to look like the "bad guy" to spice things up.

"Richie, why were you such an asshole in live TV?"
"Bro, they gave me The Villain Edit for no reason!"

The Villain Edit by Chuli-P August 15, 2024

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. 

Coined in the movie "The Dark Knight Rises" by Harvey Dent, A.k.a. Two-Face.

It is the philisophical summary that, no matter what good you intend to do, as long as you live and continue, you will bring about just as much evil as good, if not more through accident or intent. Death becomes a saving grace, providing vindication for their actions and preventing a worsening of certain outcomes through inactivity.

Examples include:
Falling to the same corrupton you sought to eliminate. ( Anakin Skywalker from Star Wars, Lois Griffin from Family Guy)
Prolonged exposure to evil, despite good intentions. (Frodo from Lord of the Rings, Ice King from Adventure Time)
Narrow minded destruction in belief of a greater goal. (Harvey Dent from "The Dark Knight Rises")

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. by TheAllKnowingOne November 23, 2013

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain

A quote from Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight by the character Harvey Dent in reference to Julius Caesar and Batman. Repeated by Batman at the end of the film.

There are several possible meanings:

1. Absolute power eventually corrupts (as in the case of Julius Caesar).
2. Being consistently heroic is difficult if not impossible, circumstances will eventually push you towards villainy (as in the case of Harvey Dent and Batman).
3. Public opinion can easily change and will eventually change. Many people have the tendency find faults even when there are none. It can also be easily manipulated. You might adhere to your code despite 1. and 2., you can still be painted as a villain by your enemies (as in the case of what Joker did to Batman).
4. Villainy and Heroism are relative and not absolute. "Good" will change with time. Different people have different concepts of "good" (the actions of Julius Caesar can be judged very differently by different people throughout the different ages). In many situations, the line between the two concepts can be very blurry (following the law versus vigilantism).

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain by Project Book August 5, 2015

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. 

When you only try to see good in people, always help others, be everyone’s favourite, and suddenly die somehow, vut everyone remembers you as a Hero. Or you have lived enough to see how the world really works, you’ve seen a lot of times that you can’t trust anyone, people use people who have a good heart. You need to be heartless to survive in this world. The ‘Hero’ would be eaten alive by this world if they still lived. They would have been a doormat to everyone.

Elly had the biggest heart. She always said yes, she forgave everyone who hurt her and always tried to see the good in people. But they used her kindness, the world broke her and she gave up on life.

Ren has seen the world and people in it. She has been hurt, but she only got stronger and smarter. She knows not to be too kind. She knows when to say no. You can’t trust anyone around you. You have to be cold-hearted to survive in this cold-hearted world.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. by Karma Black October 29, 2022

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain 

When someone lives a great life and helps others, hence is a hero, however as time passes they are corrupted for whatever reason, and live long enough to become the villain. This change is inevitable for most heroes, unless they take the opportunity to die a hero earlier (or quit the business of being a hero, as its suggested bruce wayne was trying to in the dark knight rises' end)

Quote by Harvey Dent in Batman The Dark Knight

Darren the legend went to get some us some underage beer with their fake id, but got busted and ended up snitching on us to the feds.

I guess it's true, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, jeoffrey said in his prison cell of 25 years.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain by Def_A_Legit_Source May 23, 2020

You either die and be a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain 

This is quoted from Two-Face of the Dark Knight movie.An interpretation of this quote is that you could stick to your morals,of what's right,to be loyal to a cause,even if it is of your detriment (die and be a hero).Should you contradict your values for your betterment,you may find yourself making the same decisions of the very people you yourself considered corrupt/evil(live long enough to see yourself become a villain.)

Black Mirror(15 million merits)
Before:Main character opposes system of the rich profiting off of working class

After:Main character is hired by rich to host a vlog to rant about systemic oppression,only to be benefiting from the system he once fought against

You either die and be a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

Black Mirror(15 million merits)
Before:Main character opposes system of the rich profiting off of working class

After:Main character is hired by rich to host a vlog to rant about systemic oppression,only to be benefiting from the system he once fought against

You either die and be a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain by Smart Patrick October 18, 2022