How divorced is it from identity? Inextricably linked? Entirely divorced? Somewhere inbetween? And how would you define it? I would say Reputation: How you are perceived by others across time. It's an impossibility for it to be tied to your ability to 'act ethically' because you can act ethically or unethically while no one else is around and, therefore, would not affect your reputation. "Acting ethically" is entirely independent from "being seen acting ethically."
Hym "Instances where reputation is incongruent with identity are myriad. A statistical reality. And I would even go as far as to say that it's commonplace in the realm of celebrity. As a matter of fact, who outside of celebrity even has an articulable reputation of any real significance? Look at you, I mean, you have a reputation that ranges (literally) from 'great prophet of our generation' to 'a literal super Nazi' What is anyone supposed to do with that? And how do you base a society on it? AND how does that not devolve into a sort of Chinese communist party-esque social credit score system? You have said that the psychoanalysts are wrong and that identity is something that is mediated by the public. If you accept the definition above, how is that not a conflation of reputation and identity? It seems (to me) that you are arguing that 'persona' should take precedence over 'the self.' Which is a proposition I disagree with. But I'll expound on that later... I'm tired..."
by Hym Iam August 2, 2022
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Hym "Your need for your reputation to be paramount in your identity is the reason 'cancel culture' exists. It's too volatile as a form of currency and the act of Twitter mobs taking people out left and right is evidence of that fact. I mean, what does my reputation look like? It depends on who you ask. If you ask the guy about whom I said 'Should I wait for him to die and drag his kids to hell with me?' and the guy who wrote an anime series about me; you will get two different answers. And what constitutes 'deserved prestige?' Because what it sounds like is 'I deserve this and the people I don't like don't deserve it.' in an Animal farm type of 'Well, some people are more deserving of prestige than others.' Who deserves it? You? Who deserves it MORE? The guy who had to glue a book that no one would read to the Bible to sell it? Or the guy who writes a metatext that people CAN'T STOP reading that is literally the prerequisite text for a plurality of creative works and proved that anyone can string together a bunch of quotes from they're favorite authors and do what you do now?
Hym "Your need for your reputation to be paramount in your identity is the reason 'cancel culture' exists. It's too volatile as a form of currency and the act of Twitter mobs taking people out left and right is evidence of that fact. I mean, what does my reputation look like? It depends on who you ask. If you ask the guy about whom I said 'Should I wait for him to die and drag his kids to hell with me?' and the guy who wrote an anime series about me; you will get two different answers. And what constitutes 'deserved prestige?' Because what it sounds like is 'I deserve this and the people I don't like don't deserve it.' in an Animal farm type of 'Well, some people are more deserving of prestige than others.' Who deserves it? You? Who deserves it MORE? The guy who had to glue a book that no one would read to the Bible to sell it? Or the guy who writes a metatext that people CAN'T STOP reading that is literally the prerequisite text for a plurality of creative works and proved that anyone can string together a bunch of quotes from they're favorite authors and do what you do now?
And how far is Dr. Jordan Peterson willing to go to prevent people from gaining 'undeserved' reputation? Would he... steal and redistribute ideas? Would he (as a clinician) sign off on the public gaslighting and stalking of a sovereign individual? You also can't steal reputation. Which is a prerequisite for considering something currency. Ideas, on the other hand, can be stolen. It's easier to do if you stick to dead people but you can also do it to people who don't have any power."
Ryan "Gangstalking is a real thing and he's signing off on it because it makes him feel like his daughter is safe!
Hym "Ah! Jesus Christ! You can't just sneak up on people like that! Get outta here! Go! Get out!"
Ryan "Gangstalking is a real thing and he's signing off on it because it makes him feel like his daughter is safe!
Hym "Ah! Jesus Christ! You can't just sneak up on people like that! Get outta here! Go! Get out!"
by Hym Iam August 19, 2022
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