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Tu Quoque Fallacy Fallacy

Mislabeling a relevant critique of an arguer's credibility or consistency as a fallacious Tu Quoque (You Too!). Genuine Tu Quoque is a fallacy when it argues that an action is right because the accuser also does it. The fallacy fallacy occurs when pointing out an arguer's blatant hypocrisy or conflicting interest is dismissed as Tu Quoque, even when that hypocrisy fundamentally undermines the sincerity or logical foundation of their argument.
Tu Quoque Fallacy Fallacy Example: A tobacco CEO argues against vaping regulations, citing "health concerns." A critic points out the CEO's company sells millions of cigarettes annually. The CEO's spokesperson says, "That's just a Tu Quoque attack on our CEO." This is the Tu Quoque Fallacy Fallacy. The hypocrisy isn't a distraction; it's central to assessing the CEO's credibility and the argument's good faith.
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tu quoque fallacy 

(LOGIC) a logical fallacy in which a person defends against an allegation by accusing an adversary of doing the same thing. It's a classic douchebag move because it implies that the speaker has a RIGHT to be a douchebag, by virtue of the fact that someone ELSE is being a douchebag.

From Latin, for "you, too."

WHY IT'S BAD
Suppose A is accused of terrorism. He reacts by accusing B, his enemy, of terrorism. Now, it's possible (but unlikely) that A actually chose this argument knowing he was totally innocent. More likely he wants to claim that his terrorism is PROVOKED. In effect, he's saying, "I have to do this, or I'm entitled to do this, because B did it first."

First, as logic it's a red herring. But what makes it douchebaggery rather than just another wartime propaganda tactic, is that it's MORALLY irrelevant as well as LOGICALLY irrelevant. The victims of terrorism almost never have any material control over either perpetrator ever.
ANNA: Abu Yahya, I don't know if your definition of "tu quoque fallacy" belongs in the Urban Dictionary. This isn't Wikipedia, you know.

ABU YAHYA: The reason I did is that I see all the time people using the rationale that, because somebody else did something bad to me, therefore I get to do something similar to anybody. It's sort of like sloppy revenge.

ANNA: Like men punishing random women because their girlfriends allegedly did something shitty to them?

ABU YAHYA: Actually, that's a perfect example of a tu quoque!
An armpit enthusiast — typically of the scent, appearance, and touch of hairy underarms.
That dude’s such a pitpig, I have to wear deodorant to keep him at bay.
Pitpig by wimbledon May 28, 2026
Word of the Day on May 29, 2026

You the birthday

You the birthday-you the point, you the topic, the reason we here, can be used as a compliment / u looking good or silly/trolling
Nah fr, you the birthday, you got all the attention.
You the birthday by Dev-in April 4, 2026
Word of the Day on May 28, 2026

church hurt 

church hurt is where you experience a degree of distance, pain, or judgement from your church community. Essentially, you are just unable to “find your place”. This is prevalent in the Christian community, but can be extended to other religions.
Now that I am an adult I am beginning to heal from the church hurt that was inflicted on me as a child.
Word of the Day on May 27, 2026
Huge. Surpassing normal expectations.
I was fishing with a Spinner Bait and a HONKIN pike came after it and hit it . Felt like a lawnmower running over a brick.
honkin by R. LaJoy December 26, 2005
Word of the Day on May 26, 2026

Stealthie 

when you're holding up your phone and making faces at it, as though you are taking a selfie, but you're really taking a picture of the person across from you or the wall or anything else that seems interesting but you don't want to be caught dead taking a picture of.

This action is often made more convincing by wiggling the eyebrows or opening the mouth, to pretend you're trying to get a Snapchat filter to work.
FRIEND A: "Did you just take a stealthie of me?"

FRIEND B (turning phone around): "no I was just using snapchat's new filter, see?"
Stealthie by gwenhyfar October 2, 2016
Word of the Day on May 25, 2026