This is a response/question to 'Juanelo'. If you know so much about what the 'real deathrock' scene was about from 'back in the 80s', what was it then? Explain yourself if you can. And how does that differ from your definition of what it is today?
Quite frankly, your definition of what deathrock is today is absurd, highly offensive, prejudiced, incorrect. Your self-esteem is obviously so low that you need to put other people down who are different than you in order to feel good about yourself (see lame). Not to mention that 'deathrock' is a just a frickin' name that people came up with in order to define the sound of the music that ARTISTS produced and the ARTISTS (see individuals) who produce such music today usually only use the definition as a reference point to a name that helps describe the types of music that influence their sound. No-one in '1998' just arbitrarily decided to bring the 'genre' back. People who identify with 'deathrock' do so because it resonates with who they are.
As to your claims of 'closet faggotry' and homosexuality: It is not even fair to say that 1/2 the people in the 'deathrock' scene are homosexual but it is accurate to say that most 'deathrockers' and 'goths' in general ARE anti-homophobic. Again, most people in the 'goth' scene I know highly value diversity, individuality, artistry and personal freedom of choice as opposed to people like yourself who obviously see sexual preference as no preference allowed (see fascist).
As to your claims of 'lack of maturity': that is highly subjective. Some would argue that the ability and willingness to explore and expose the darker side of society, the human experience and emotions in general reflects a level of maturity and courage to deal with such issues as death, grief, etc. (see catharsis and mortality) and not giving a s**t if people think it's morbid or morose.
As to your claims of 'social ineptitude issues': what extrinsic constraints do you allow to be placed on yourself in determining how to be 'social' and what is defined as 'social'? In order to participate socially, one first has to be an individual. Individuals can decide how and to what extent they CHOOSE to socialize with people.
As to your claims of 'sexual insecurity': I don't see how this is possible as most deathrock and goth music is highly danceable - dance itself being sexual. Most goths I know are not ashamed of or afraid to express their sexuality. Are you sure this 'sexual insecurity' you speak of is not just a projection?
As to your claim of 'high rates of pretension': see fun, camp sense of humor, halloween, imagination.
Quite frankly, your definition of what deathrock is today is absurd, highly offensive, prejudiced, incorrect. Your self-esteem is obviously so low that you need to put other people down who are different than you in order to feel good about yourself (see lame). Not to mention that 'deathrock' is a just a frickin' name that people came up with in order to define the sound of the music that ARTISTS produced and the ARTISTS (see individuals) who produce such music today usually only use the definition as a reference point to a name that helps describe the types of music that influence their sound. No-one in '1998' just arbitrarily decided to bring the 'genre' back. People who identify with 'deathrock' do so because it resonates with who they are.
As to your claims of 'closet faggotry' and homosexuality: It is not even fair to say that 1/2 the people in the 'deathrock' scene are homosexual but it is accurate to say that most 'deathrockers' and 'goths' in general ARE anti-homophobic. Again, most people in the 'goth' scene I know highly value diversity, individuality, artistry and personal freedom of choice as opposed to people like yourself who obviously see sexual preference as no preference allowed (see fascist).
As to your claims of 'lack of maturity': that is highly subjective. Some would argue that the ability and willingness to explore and expose the darker side of society, the human experience and emotions in general reflects a level of maturity and courage to deal with such issues as death, grief, etc. (see catharsis and mortality) and not giving a s**t if people think it's morbid or morose.
As to your claims of 'social ineptitude issues': what extrinsic constraints do you allow to be placed on yourself in determining how to be 'social' and what is defined as 'social'? In order to participate socially, one first has to be an individual. Individuals can decide how and to what extent they CHOOSE to socialize with people.
As to your claims of 'sexual insecurity': I don't see how this is possible as most deathrock and goth music is highly danceable - dance itself being sexual. Most goths I know are not ashamed of or afraid to express their sexuality. Are you sure this 'sexual insecurity' you speak of is not just a projection?
As to your claim of 'high rates of pretension': see fun, camp sense of humor, halloween, imagination.
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Get the cockadile deathroll mug.Deathrock (or goth punk as some call it) deals with themes of death and mortality, sorrow, despair, surrealism, fantasy, the darker side of the life of society, the supernatural, the occult, romanticism, the effects of psychological terror and trauma - just to name a few of the basics. The music of goth punk, (as opposed to the more traditional extremely fast and anger-based hardcore punk), usually exists within the realm of medium-fast, more danceable rhythms often including tribal tom-based drum sections for the verses. The music also often includes a synthesizer to accompany the drums, bass and guitar, which again, is something more traditional hardcore punk usually refrained from including. The result is more of a moody, introspective sound that takes one into the realms of imagination. The classic, essential deathrock bands include: Christian Death (the original lineup with vocalist Rozz Williams), early TSOL, UK Decay, The Damned, 45 Grave, Alien Sex Fiend and The Cramps.
Keep in mind that there were also several 'dark punk' bands around the same time that, while not maybe being quite as 'gothic' in some regards, still had enough stylistic similarities to be worthy of mention. They include bands such as: The Adicts, The Adverts, The Mob, False Prophets, Wipers, Chrome and can't forget classics that bridged the gap between hardcore and darkpunk such as Black Flag, Dead Kennedys and The Misfits. One should at least check out the classic deathrock bands before making comments on the genre. Keep in mind that while all these bands have similarities, they also have very distinctive sounds that set them apart from the others, as all good artists should, so don't think that just because you've heard one or two of the bands mentioned that you know what goth punk sounds like. Modern deathrockers worthy of mention are: Cinema Strange and Cauda Pavonis.
Keep in mind that there were also several 'dark punk' bands around the same time that, while not maybe being quite as 'gothic' in some regards, still had enough stylistic similarities to be worthy of mention. They include bands such as: The Adicts, The Adverts, The Mob, False Prophets, Wipers, Chrome and can't forget classics that bridged the gap between hardcore and darkpunk such as Black Flag, Dead Kennedys and The Misfits. One should at least check out the classic deathrock bands before making comments on the genre. Keep in mind that while all these bands have similarities, they also have very distinctive sounds that set them apart from the others, as all good artists should, so don't think that just because you've heard one or two of the bands mentioned that you know what goth punk sounds like. Modern deathrockers worthy of mention are: Cinema Strange and Cauda Pavonis.
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