ok i just want to clear a few things up here
One Half says that:
How exactly Sephiroth managed to come back is never explained; where Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo came from is never explained; how Kadaj became Sephiroth is never explained; the full story of Geostigma is never explained; the plot holes from the game were never covered up nor explained, and how Aeris and Zack continue to exist is not explained.
SO lets start with the three grey-haired men. As the movie puts it, they are 'remnants.' They are in fact physical manifestations of Jenova's memetic legacy within the lifestream, sort of clones of a person's genetic remains, except instead of genetic, they are 'memetic' clones (born out of Jenova's or maybe Sephiroths will). the fact that Kadaj visibly disintegrates into part of the lifestream when he dies suggests that he was not born from a mother's womb, but directly from the lifestream which still contains the presense of Jenova who exerts some influence over the lifestream and Sephiroth (who is physically dead). Kadaj became sephiroth because when he took Jenova's head into himself, the jenova cells with their form changing capability did what ultimately would be in their best interest to survive and changed Kadaj into the greatest soldier ever to live in order to fight cloud.
Geostigma also links into the presence of jenova cells in the lifestream. When the lifestream, summoned by aeris, burst out of the planet to fight against meteor above midgar in the end of FFVII, the jenova cells within the lifestream infected many of the people in midgar. geostigma is the result of the body's own 'lifestream' trying to fight off the invading jenova cells, as explained by vincent.
aeris and zack continue to exist in the lifestream (and in cloud's memory/dreams), simple as that. if you are a christian and/or believe that people have a soul and there is such thing as heaven, think of it that way.
as for plot holes in the game - some things in the game are deliberately left ambiguous (i.e whether cloud ever loved aeris), many things are left for you to work out yourself and ARE NOT spelled out to you in black and white, some things can only be seen by backtracking or exploring every nook and cranny. that and vincent is by far the coolest character in the whole series.
One Half says that:
How exactly Sephiroth managed to come back is never explained; where Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo came from is never explained; how Kadaj became Sephiroth is never explained; the full story of Geostigma is never explained; the plot holes from the game were never covered up nor explained, and how Aeris and Zack continue to exist is not explained.
SO lets start with the three grey-haired men. As the movie puts it, they are 'remnants.' They are in fact physical manifestations of Jenova's memetic legacy within the lifestream, sort of clones of a person's genetic remains, except instead of genetic, they are 'memetic' clones (born out of Jenova's or maybe Sephiroths will). the fact that Kadaj visibly disintegrates into part of the lifestream when he dies suggests that he was not born from a mother's womb, but directly from the lifestream which still contains the presense of Jenova who exerts some influence over the lifestream and Sephiroth (who is physically dead). Kadaj became sephiroth because when he took Jenova's head into himself, the jenova cells with their form changing capability did what ultimately would be in their best interest to survive and changed Kadaj into the greatest soldier ever to live in order to fight cloud.
Geostigma also links into the presence of jenova cells in the lifestream. When the lifestream, summoned by aeris, burst out of the planet to fight against meteor above midgar in the end of FFVII, the jenova cells within the lifestream infected many of the people in midgar. geostigma is the result of the body's own 'lifestream' trying to fight off the invading jenova cells, as explained by vincent.
aeris and zack continue to exist in the lifestream (and in cloud's memory/dreams), simple as that. if you are a christian and/or believe that people have a soul and there is such thing as heaven, think of it that way.
as for plot holes in the game - some things in the game are deliberately left ambiguous (i.e whether cloud ever loved aeris), many things are left for you to work out yourself and ARE NOT spelled out to you in black and white, some things can only be seen by backtracking or exploring every nook and cranny. that and vincent is by far the coolest character in the whole series.
hater: Final fantasy VII: Advent Children was lame as, you have to be a silly little final fantasy 7 sephiroth loving fanboy to actually enjoy this movie because us TRUE final fantasy fans are too busy hating fanboys to appreciate the amazing CGI, the very well coreographed fight scenes and some of the good voice acting in this film.
fanboy: be fair tho, vincent is cool
fanboy: be fair tho, vincent is cool
by the wangster May 16, 2006
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Oh...you mean it was a game?
Oh...you mean it was a game?
by InfiniteSeraph January 8, 2004
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The games so far been critically acclaimed in several foreign (read:Japanese) publications. From what I've heard (wikipedia), it's been leaked onto the net (as I'm writing this, there's still 2 weeks 'till the games release).
The games so far been critically acclaimed in several foreign (read:Japanese) publications. From what I've heard (wikipedia), it's been leaked onto the net (as I'm writing this, there's still 2 weeks 'till the games release).
Vaan looks like a douche, but at least it's a departure from all the pretty boy shit in every RPG. People hate him, and that I like.
Oh, and theres bunnies+girls with big fucking asses so you can bet the hentai will be decent.
Final Fantasy 12 cause I gotta say it at least once.
Oh, and theres bunnies+girls with big fucking asses so you can bet the hentai will be decent.
Final Fantasy 12 cause I gotta say it at least once.
by Shakezoola October 16, 2006
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I hate Final Fantasy Tactics Advance!
I LOVE Final Fantasy Tactics Advance!
I was playing Final Fantasy Tactics Advance last night..
I LOVE Final Fantasy Tactics Advance!
I was playing Final Fantasy Tactics Advance last night..
by Chantal Charisse July 28, 2004
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Basically, one gigantic circle jerk of arrogance, elitism and anti-social trolling and terrible, biased moderation staff. The usual clique run nerd-board atmosphere dominated by one or two titanic douchebag trolls that the mods refuse to ban, surrounded by his/her sycophantic and considerably less witty/intelligent post riding followers.
Subjects include and are limited to (all threads include the usual trolling and/or petty garbage associated with anti-social nerds drunk on anonymity):
1. Which game in the series was best/worse.
2. Which member should be banned.
3. How awesome the local asshole/hero is.
4. Obligatory/masturbatory, random, unfunny neckbeards showing off thread.
5. Some variation/combination of the above.
To join, members must possess a majority of these virtues:
1. Arrogance
2. Grammar Nazism (note: "roffle, lawls, and other such mind numbing chat speak are considered acceptable, if written by the more popular losers)
3. Pack mentality/Cliquish-Minded (tri-monthly smirf services to the high post counters are mandatory)
4. The complete inability to communicate with anyone on an adult level, in any situation other than an oppressive clique-driven moderator supported group.
Basically, one gigantic circle jerk of arrogance, elitism and anti-social trolling and terrible, biased moderation staff. The usual clique run nerd-board atmosphere dominated by one or two titanic douchebag trolls that the mods refuse to ban, surrounded by his/her sycophantic and considerably less witty/intelligent post riding followers.
Subjects include and are limited to (all threads include the usual trolling and/or petty garbage associated with anti-social nerds drunk on anonymity):
1. Which game in the series was best/worse.
2. Which member should be banned.
3. How awesome the local asshole/hero is.
4. Obligatory/masturbatory, random, unfunny neckbeards showing off thread.
5. Some variation/combination of the above.
To join, members must possess a majority of these virtues:
1. Arrogance
2. Grammar Nazism (note: "roffle, lawls, and other such mind numbing chat speak are considered acceptable, if written by the more popular losers)
3. Pack mentality/Cliquish-Minded (tri-monthly smirf services to the high post counters are mandatory)
4. The complete inability to communicate with anyone on an adult level, in any situation other than an oppressive clique-driven moderator supported group.
English scientists have proved conclusively that prolonged viewing and participation of Final Fantasy Shrine can actively reduce one's ability to produce coherent thought by .5% each minute of exposure and is so malicious that Darfur has considered it for a homepage.
I found Final Fantasy Shrine accidentally, after perusing the nonsense filled bullshit, I had a hard time standing up. I couldn't do math for about a week.
I found Final Fantasy Shrine accidentally, after perusing the nonsense filled bullshit, I had a hard time standing up. I couldn't do math for about a week.
by Lig Na Baste January 10, 2008
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Right now, there is a gigantic argument between fans on which game in the series is the best. The two biggest competitors are FFVI and FFVII. The VI fans say it sticks to the roots and that VII is the bastardization of the series by it bringing RPGs into the mainstream, whereas VII fans say it's a fun game and that it was their first RPG. It is the author's opinion that they are both fun games and that both of them are equally liked for different reasons.
Right now, there is a gigantic argument between fans on which game in the series is the best. The two biggest competitors are FFVI and FFVII. The VI fans say it sticks to the roots and that VII is the bastardization of the series by it bringing RPGs into the mainstream, whereas VII fans say it's a fun game and that it was their first RPG. It is the author's opinion that they are both fun games and that both of them are equally liked for different reasons.
by Matt November 20, 2005
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