i. A geographical region in the north of Greece; capital, Thessaloniki.
ii. Historical name misused to refer to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM).
iii. Ancient territory now divided among Greece, Bulgaria and The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). Propaganda that began as early as the end of the 19th century with the decline of the Ottoman Empire and the formation of ethnic states, promoted the use of the name Macedonia by Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian, Serb and whatever other populaces to give them a coherent ethnic identity, in favor of each country. The collapse of communist Yugoslavia, sparked open controversy as Skopje (the capital of FYROM) made claims on the name "Macedonia" fot their state name and the Star of Vergina (ancient Macedonian symbol) for their flag.
To confront the misinformation supplied above:
1. Macedonians just like Arcadians, Aeolians, Dorians and all the other Greek "tribes" had the same main deities but worshiped their own gods as well. Deities were also introduced into Greek pantheons by Thracians, Frygians and other peoples.
2. Ooookay... Macedonians sat down to eat while other Greeks lied on their sides; on the other hand they were admitted in the Olympic Games that were strictly exclusive to Greek tribes.
3. Greek city-states were warring all the time, Athens vs Sparta being the most known war. Each City-State while growing in power and setting up colonies conflicted with one another. In fact, the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta (that ended with the defeat of Athens) was the reason the two strongest city-states declined in power and left room for a new force to appear.
4. The name Macedon (derived from the greek macednos: he who has long shanks, a tall person) should suffice. Alexander the Great, his father Fillipos, his mother Olympias (daughter of King Pyrros of Epirus) all have Greek names. Also he was educated by Aristotle. His horse's name was Bucephalas (bus --> bull + cephalas (kefali in modern greek) --> head). The new cities he founded all had greek names.
5. Macedonians were in fact hated by other Greeks just as Athenians were hated by other Greeks when they were at their peak (and "owned" almost all the Aegean Isles, not to mention some colonies in Sicily) just as any warring faction hates the other warring faction that has grown in power and away from their reach. When the Macedonians (again I point out that this could be Athenians, Spartans, Fokians and so on) forced the rest of Greece into submission, they fought a major battle against the Persians. The only City-State that wasn't a part of the Greek army was Sparta. So, after the defeat of the Persians, Alexander erected a monument with an inscription that translates roughly into: "go tell the spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie". This was an epigram By Simonedes Of Kea written in the Ionian dialect. Epigrams (you can look them up in wikipedia) were short inscriptions (literal meaning is "to write upon sthg") that often had an ironic twist. Get the irony in this one is rather obvious.
However, being dirt-poor, with a country in shambles, full of Albanian, Bulgarian and other minorities the FYROM government is feeding people lots of glorious history just because they have nothing else to feed them. This however has never been such a good idea. It has led to a rise in nationalism on both sides, absurd claims (unofficial, for the time being) of "occupied Macedonia" with a notion of the historical Macedonia (that spread in what is now three countries) in mind, and ludicrous claims that modern inhabitants of that bit of land descend straight for the lineage of Alexander the Great which is a blatant lie since claiming a 3000 year-old lineage in the Balkans is a bit far-fetched (since they were not an isolated populace that intermarried) not to mention that Slavic populaces descended in the Balkan peninsula around 600 A.D.
ii. Historical name misused to refer to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM).
iii. Ancient territory now divided among Greece, Bulgaria and The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). Propaganda that began as early as the end of the 19th century with the decline of the Ottoman Empire and the formation of ethnic states, promoted the use of the name Macedonia by Greek, Turkish, Bulgarian, Serb and whatever other populaces to give them a coherent ethnic identity, in favor of each country. The collapse of communist Yugoslavia, sparked open controversy as Skopje (the capital of FYROM) made claims on the name "Macedonia" fot their state name and the Star of Vergina (ancient Macedonian symbol) for their flag.
To confront the misinformation supplied above:
1. Macedonians just like Arcadians, Aeolians, Dorians and all the other Greek "tribes" had the same main deities but worshiped their own gods as well. Deities were also introduced into Greek pantheons by Thracians, Frygians and other peoples.
2. Ooookay... Macedonians sat down to eat while other Greeks lied on their sides; on the other hand they were admitted in the Olympic Games that were strictly exclusive to Greek tribes.
3. Greek city-states were warring all the time, Athens vs Sparta being the most known war. Each City-State while growing in power and setting up colonies conflicted with one another. In fact, the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta (that ended with the defeat of Athens) was the reason the two strongest city-states declined in power and left room for a new force to appear.
4. The name Macedon (derived from the greek macednos: he who has long shanks, a tall person) should suffice. Alexander the Great, his father Fillipos, his mother Olympias (daughter of King Pyrros of Epirus) all have Greek names. Also he was educated by Aristotle. His horse's name was Bucephalas (bus --> bull + cephalas (kefali in modern greek) --> head). The new cities he founded all had greek names.
5. Macedonians were in fact hated by other Greeks just as Athenians were hated by other Greeks when they were at their peak (and "owned" almost all the Aegean Isles, not to mention some colonies in Sicily) just as any warring faction hates the other warring faction that has grown in power and away from their reach. When the Macedonians (again I point out that this could be Athenians, Spartans, Fokians and so on) forced the rest of Greece into submission, they fought a major battle against the Persians. The only City-State that wasn't a part of the Greek army was Sparta. So, after the defeat of the Persians, Alexander erected a monument with an inscription that translates roughly into: "go tell the spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie". This was an epigram By Simonedes Of Kea written in the Ionian dialect. Epigrams (you can look them up in wikipedia) were short inscriptions (literal meaning is "to write upon sthg") that often had an ironic twist. Get the irony in this one is rather obvious.
However, being dirt-poor, with a country in shambles, full of Albanian, Bulgarian and other minorities the FYROM government is feeding people lots of glorious history just because they have nothing else to feed them. This however has never been such a good idea. It has led to a rise in nationalism on both sides, absurd claims (unofficial, for the time being) of "occupied Macedonia" with a notion of the historical Macedonia (that spread in what is now three countries) in mind, and ludicrous claims that modern inhabitants of that bit of land descend straight for the lineage of Alexander the Great which is a blatant lie since claiming a 3000 year-old lineage in the Balkans is a bit far-fetched (since they were not an isolated populace that intermarried) not to mention that Slavic populaces descended in the Balkan peninsula around 600 A.D.
Q: I' ve been in the Peloponnese, Epirus, Crete, the Ionian, literally all over Greece but never Macedonia.
A: You should! It's really beautiful!
A: You should! It's really beautiful!
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A term used by old boomer pilots, old Designated Pilot Examiners, and employees at the Federal Aviation Administration, that refuse to accept the fact that times have changed and technology has improved in between the time the wright brothers first flew and when the Airbus A320neo first flew. These older pilots, usually refuse to acknowledge the fact that advances in aviation have made flying safer and more efficient. A derogatory term used to describe younger pilots that use the GPS functions of the airplane's avionics, like the Garmin G1000.
DPE - "That is not navigation by pilotage and dead-reckoning!
Piot Candidate- "But I made all my waypoints and dead-reckoning times."
DPE- "Even though you made all of your points within ACS, You loaded your route into the GPS and followed the Magenta Line! You young pilots are just Children of the Magenta Line!"
Piot Candidate- "But I made all my waypoints and dead-reckoning times."
DPE- "Even though you made all of your points within ACS, You loaded your route into the GPS and followed the Magenta Line! You young pilots are just Children of the Magenta Line!"
by flyingman November 2, 2021
Get the Children of the Magenta Line mug.What so called Macedonians claim to be their land. It is actually northern Greece. For every city in Macedonia is Greek. Alexander the Great did not really come from this country but from Greece. The Ancient Macedonian flag use to be an Ancient Greek symbol which represents the 12 Greek Gods and Goddesses. This symbol had to be changed three times from the controversy it caused. The Ancient Macedonians spoke GREEK!!! THE CITIES ARE GREEK! MACEDONIA IS GREECE!
Alexander the Great even quoted:
"Your ancestors came from Macedonia and the rest of Hellas (Greece) and did us great harm, Though we had done no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to you Asia, Which I took from you..."
This means that Alexander the Great was Greek. Leader of the Greeks.
Alexander the Great even quoted:
"Your ancestors came from Macedonia and the rest of Hellas (Greece) and did us great harm, Though we had done no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to you Asia, Which I took from you..."
This means that Alexander the Great was Greek. Leader of the Greeks.
Greek: Hey have you noticed that all our cities are named after Ancient Greek Names, The flag itself is Greek, Ancient Macedonians use to speak Greek too, and that Alexander the Great claimed he was leader of the Greeks?
Macedonian: So what does that mean?
Macedonian: So what does that mean?
by Greek. June 25, 2009
Get the Macedonia mug.Macedonia is the largest and second most populous region of Greece. Macedonia is divided into three peripheries - West, Central and East Macedonia, comprising thirteen prefectures or nomoi. It covers an area of some 34,231 km² (13,217 square miles) and it has a population of 2,625,681.Its capital and largest city is Thessaloniki. The Greeks who live there are called Macedonians. The name probably derives from the greek adjective makednós, meaning "tall".
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The Birthplace of the Greek tribe of Macedonians, who fought with and against other Greek tribes such as Spartans and Athenians. The home to the first Greek leader to unify all the Greek City states to rule the known world. The home to over two million residents in Modern day Northern Greece, whilst also the home to a slavic race of people to the north in FYROM (The fomer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)who linguisticly and culturaly are very close to Bulgarain, if not the same. Not related to the ancient macedonians as the Slavs arived 1000 years after Alexander the Great which by then the poeple identified themselves as Byzantines and the term Macedonia had been lost for hundreds of years.
The Birthplace of the Greek tribe of Macedonians, who fought with and against other Greek tribes such as Spartans and Athenians. The home to the first Greek leader to unify all the Greek City states to rule the known world. The home to over two million residents in Modern day Northern Greece, whilst also the home to a slavic race of people to the north in FYROM (The fomer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)who linguisticly and culturaly are very close to Bulgarain, if not the same. Not related to the ancient macedonians as the Slavs arived 1000 years after Alexander the Great which by then the poeple identified themselves as Byzantines and the term Macedonia had been lost for hundreds of years.
Hi I`m Macedonian born in Thessaloniki, well I am Peloponesian born in Kalamata and ethnicaly and culturaly we are both Greek.
by Jim February 7, 2005
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