Pretty much everyone who bashed metal here has probably only listened to false bands like Slipknot. Most of the definitions about how metal sucks were extremley biased. Because I'm bored, I'm going to dissect this bullshit definition.
"Can you sing about something else besides Satan?"
Groups like Nuclear Assault and Sacred Reich sang about the government and war. In fact, I don't even think those bands sing any songs that go like "HAIL SATAN!". There's other bands who sing about that too. I've also heard many other metal songs about ancient Egypt, medievel times, etc etc (most notabley with Iron Maiden)
"Can you sing at all?"
Rob Halford can hit a 5th octave. Nuff said. Oh and I also suggest Iron Maiden, Edguy, Dream Theater, Hammerfall, Blind Guardian, Helloween...
"Can you not be such goth fucktards?"
Goth fucktards? Leather, spikes, and chains are hardly gothic. Gothic metal is it's own genre, and I'm not referring to "z0mg im so gawthik" bands like Slipknot and Korn, I'm talking about bands like Type-O-Negative, Paradise Lost, etc.
"Can you focus more on music and maybe write some non-retarded lyrics and maybe get someone who can actually sing to sing them?"
Again, using Iron Maiden as an example, alot of their songs are about history, and they aren't the only ones who do so...and refer to the list of bands above who can actually sing.
"Can you make it a little more normal and a little less like goth vampire shit?"
Refer to what I said about gothic metal
"Can you make it a little more closer to rock & roll?"
I hear alot of influences from early rock and roll in groups like Raven, Motorhead, Anvil, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Exciter.
"Can you go five seconds without mentioning Satan?"
Refer to my first answer.
"^And why the fuck do you do that anyways in the first place?"
Bands who DO sing about Satan do it for the same effect as a horror movie. Sure, some if it is cheesy as hell (like Venom for example), but that doesn't mean theres anything wrong with enjoying it.
"Do you even know the difference between something that sounds like shit and noise and mud vs. something that actually sounds good?"
That's a little subjective now...
"Can you sing about something else besides Satan?"
Groups like Nuclear Assault and Sacred Reich sang about the government and war. In fact, I don't even think those bands sing any songs that go like "HAIL SATAN!". There's other bands who sing about that too. I've also heard many other metal songs about ancient Egypt, medievel times, etc etc (most notabley with Iron Maiden)
"Can you sing at all?"
Rob Halford can hit a 5th octave. Nuff said. Oh and I also suggest Iron Maiden, Edguy, Dream Theater, Hammerfall, Blind Guardian, Helloween...
"Can you not be such goth fucktards?"
Goth fucktards? Leather, spikes, and chains are hardly gothic. Gothic metal is it's own genre, and I'm not referring to "z0mg im so gawthik" bands like Slipknot and Korn, I'm talking about bands like Type-O-Negative, Paradise Lost, etc.
"Can you focus more on music and maybe write some non-retarded lyrics and maybe get someone who can actually sing to sing them?"
Again, using Iron Maiden as an example, alot of their songs are about history, and they aren't the only ones who do so...and refer to the list of bands above who can actually sing.
"Can you make it a little more normal and a little less like goth vampire shit?"
Refer to what I said about gothic metal
"Can you make it a little more closer to rock & roll?"
I hear alot of influences from early rock and roll in groups like Raven, Motorhead, Anvil, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Exciter.
"Can you go five seconds without mentioning Satan?"
Refer to my first answer.
"^And why the fuck do you do that anyways in the first place?"
Bands who DO sing about Satan do it for the same effect as a horror movie. Sure, some if it is cheesy as hell (like Venom for example), but that doesn't mean theres anything wrong with enjoying it.
"Do you even know the difference between something that sounds like shit and noise and mud vs. something that actually sounds good?"
That's a little subjective now...
by Paul The Metal Maniac October 10, 2006
Get the heavy metal mug.Metal Hipsterism is analogous in behavior to mainstream Hipsterism, only in this case applied to the numerous metal sub-genres instead of indie music. While Metal Hipsters cast disdain on the traditional Hipsters, their love of classifying metal genres has essentially turned them into what they hate.
Classic symptoms you are a Metal Hipster:
1) You hate any band that has achieved any kind of mainstream success. Your favorite term for these bands is "Mallcore".
2) You use at least three adjectives to classify every metal sub-genre. i.e., Finnish Melodic Death Metal, Vegetarian Progressive Grindcore, or Crust Punk Viking Symphonic Extremoganza. You argue the finer points of Extreme Black Deathcore vs. Black Death Extremecore.
3) You are instantly enraged if a random passerby has a fucking clue what you are talking about, and are then motivated to invent a few more subgenres.
Classic symptoms you are a Metal Hipster:
1) You hate any band that has achieved any kind of mainstream success. Your favorite term for these bands is "Mallcore".
2) You use at least three adjectives to classify every metal sub-genre. i.e., Finnish Melodic Death Metal, Vegetarian Progressive Grindcore, or Crust Punk Viking Symphonic Extremoganza. You argue the finer points of Extreme Black Deathcore vs. Black Death Extremecore.
3) You are instantly enraged if a random passerby has a fucking clue what you are talking about, and are then motivated to invent a few more subgenres.
"I despise Lamb of God. Marketing crappy metal to crappy kids with M-16 patriotism. Oh God, I have turned into a lame Metal Hipster!"
"Killswitch Engage isn't even Metal. Their first 2 albums were okay but then they got Howard Jones and I think they moved to Motown Records...Oh God, I have turned into a lame Metal Hipster!"
"The fact that you even think Behemoth sounds anything like, let's say, Underoath or Hatebreed (both can safely be labeled "metalcore"), makes me quite skeptical of your knowledge of metal. If you can manage to put your biases aside for a second (i.e., your personal preference for certain genres of metal, because I know that you have them), please explain to me why it is that you think that bands like Necrophagist and Behemoth are not TDM and blackened death metal, respectively. I honestly would like to know why you don't consider Muhammed Suicmez's playing to be technical and why you don't think Adam Darski's voice qualifies as black metal-sounding. Can you, as objectively as possible, explain why you believe that the one article you posted is correct and that the countless number of professional magazines, music reviews, and metal bands out there that claim that Necrophagist is indeed tech death and Behemoth definitely is a blackened death metal band are wrong and OMG I AM METAL HIPSTER LEVEL OVER 9000!!!!"
"Killswitch Engage isn't even Metal. Their first 2 albums were okay but then they got Howard Jones and I think they moved to Motown Records...Oh God, I have turned into a lame Metal Hipster!"
"The fact that you even think Behemoth sounds anything like, let's say, Underoath or Hatebreed (both can safely be labeled "metalcore"), makes me quite skeptical of your knowledge of metal. If you can manage to put your biases aside for a second (i.e., your personal preference for certain genres of metal, because I know that you have them), please explain to me why it is that you think that bands like Necrophagist and Behemoth are not TDM and blackened death metal, respectively. I honestly would like to know why you don't consider Muhammed Suicmez's playing to be technical and why you don't think Adam Darski's voice qualifies as black metal-sounding. Can you, as objectively as possible, explain why you believe that the one article you posted is correct and that the countless number of professional magazines, music reviews, and metal bands out there that claim that Necrophagist is indeed tech death and Behemoth definitely is a blackened death metal band are wrong and OMG I AM METAL HIPSTER LEVEL OVER 9000!!!!"
by ether.real April 1, 2010
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A male or female, typically in their teen ages, 14-18, who usually listens to metalcore, post-hardcore, deathcore bands es pecially chelsea grin and suicide silence, and nu metal. Genres like these symbolize a typical teenage boy or girl who call themselves "metalheads". These genres are considered to be poser metal to real metal fans. These teenage boys and girls usually bash people for their personal opinion on the music they like and won't be friends with someone unless they have their music taste.
Bands like Of Mice & Men, Asking Alexandria, Motionless in White, Bring Me the Horizon, are examples of fake metal and poser metal.
Bands like Of Mice & Men, Asking Alexandria, Motionless in White, Bring Me the Horizon, are examples of fake metal and poser metal.
Metal-Poser: *talking to someone who doesn't have their music taste*, "omg what the fuck, you're such an asshole, your music sucks!"
^ This is typically said by a metal poser to someone who doesn't like their music.
Metal-Poser: "I hate rap and country, it's so fucking gay. Mac Miller and Nicki Minaj and Justin Bieber and all mainstream music sucks!"
Real Metalhead who doesn't bash people for their music taste: "Gosh, leave people's music alone. What are you, a metal poser?"
^ This is typically said by a metal poser to someone who doesn't like their music.
Metal-Poser: "I hate rap and country, it's so fucking gay. Mac Miller and Nicki Minaj and Justin Bieber and all mainstream music sucks!"
Real Metalhead who doesn't bash people for their music taste: "Gosh, leave people's music alone. What are you, a metal poser?"
by volumesftw96 July 13, 2013
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by Ryan Nash August 10, 2007
Get the Metal Fingers mug.A phrase used in Britain to denote the belief, by certain vested interest groups, that British society as a whole discriminates against minorities. These groups can represent ethnic, religious or other minorities or be just professional bleeding hearts but they all promote the same bullshit, namely, that an action taken by society against a member or members of a minority group automatically infringes their human rights. This has led to the ridiculous situation where members of various minorities get away with acts that would see a member of the largely silent majority jailed. This is due to greedy lawyers and waste of space organisations who mindlessly support these people often at huge cost to the British taxpayer.
Unfortunately minority pressure groups like Liberty, professional bleeding hearts and all the other wasters who are BVA have pressured politicians into the belief that this is a vote winner. In fact, if politicians merely gave the matter a few minutes thought (there's an oxymoron politician and thought) they would realise that they are placing the needs of a minority above those of the majority. Effectively they have been brainwashed into a Minority Mentality.
Unfortunately minority pressure groups like Liberty, professional bleeding hearts and all the other wasters who are BVA have pressured politicians into the belief that this is a vote winner. In fact, if politicians merely gave the matter a few minutes thought (there's an oxymoron politician and thought) they would realise that they are placing the needs of a minority above those of the majority. Effectively they have been brainwashed into a Minority Mentality.
In a recent British court case, the judge allowed the defendant to wear a burka in court, despite the fact that there is no religious requirement in Islam for a woman to wear such a garment. Effectively British justice was forced to surrender to the Minority Mentality.
by Croatalin April 22, 2014
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The term is used as a very loose categorization, but is usually used to describe artists playing a style of metal which is considered either a unique approach to metal music or difficult to define as strictly metal or alternative. Faith No More is a good example of a band in which both criteria apply.
Heavy metal is an essential component of the music, but it was very different from the thrash underground of the 1980s. Initially alternative metal appealed mainly to alternative rock fans since virtually all 80s alt-metal bands had their roots in the American indie underground scene. Alt-metal bands commonly emerged from hardcore punk (Corrosion of Conformity), post-punk/gothic rock (Jane's Addiction), noise rock such as the "pigfuck" sound of Big Black and Sonic Youth (Helmet, White Zombie), grunge (The Melvins, Soundgarden), industrial music (Ministry, Nine Inch Nails), and other movements in the indie underground scene, although it was not uncommon for bands to incorporate a wide variety of influences (such as Soundgarden, who lists Bad Brains, Bauhaus, and the Butthole Surfers as major influences). These bands never formed a distinct movement or scene; rather they were bound by their incorporation of traditional metal influences and openness to experimenting with the form, usually by way of their eclectic influences and uncommon approaches. For example, Jane's Addiction utilized performance art and a bohemian aesthetic, Corrosion of Conformity, The Melvins and the now defunct grunge band Soundgarden had a fondness for subverting '70s metal, and Faith No More injected funk and rap music into their brand of alternative metal, while Primus incorperates funk, progressive rock, elements of thrash metal and punk rock, and an obscure Residents-esque touch in to their form of the genre.
The grunge movement of the early 1990s, which itself was a combination of 70's metal like Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and underground punk, helped increase the audience for such bands, and these artists were as comfortable playing to alternative rock fans on various Lollapalooza line-ups (itself founded by Jane's Addiction frontman Perry Farrell) as they were opening for metal bands like Metallica. With the changing of the musical landscape by the popular breakthrough of alternative rock, "alternative metal" became a new phrase used to describe bands in the early 1990s who managed to make relevant Nirvana era music that, as metal historian Ian Christe states, was "heavy without necessarily being metal". Newer bands emerged in this era with their distinctive takes on metal: White Zombie, Nine Inch Nails and Fear Factory started the industrial wave, combining techno-like beats and heavy guitars, Tool immersed itself in prog-rock influences, Rage Against the Machine was as informed by hip hop and post-punk agitprop such as Gang of Four as it was by metal, and Helmet molded a background in jazz and noise-rock/post-hardcore influences into a highly influential strand of intense rock music.
As the 90s progressed, alternative metal's sound became more standardized as newer bands drew inspiration for the same collective set of influences that included RATM, Korn, Nine Inch Nails, and Helmet. Helmet in particular, with its downtuned riffs and aggressive dissonance, created the sonic template for the nu metal movement. The chief distinctions between alternative metal and nu metal, aside from the generic sound, are the latter's tenuous (or even non-existant) connection to the underground rock scene and the DIY ethos that informed the musical approaches of past alternative metal bands, as well as the reluctancy of alternative metal bands to explicitly align themselves under the heavy metal banner.
The term is used as a very loose categorization, but is usually used to describe artists playing a style of metal which is considered either a unique approach to metal music or difficult to define as strictly metal or alternative. Faith No More is a good example of a band in which both criteria apply.
Heavy metal is an essential component of the music, but it was very different from the thrash underground of the 1980s. Initially alternative metal appealed mainly to alternative rock fans since virtually all 80s alt-metal bands had their roots in the American indie underground scene. Alt-metal bands commonly emerged from hardcore punk (Corrosion of Conformity), post-punk/gothic rock (Jane's Addiction), noise rock such as the "pigfuck" sound of Big Black and Sonic Youth (Helmet, White Zombie), grunge (The Melvins, Soundgarden), industrial music (Ministry, Nine Inch Nails), and other movements in the indie underground scene, although it was not uncommon for bands to incorporate a wide variety of influences (such as Soundgarden, who lists Bad Brains, Bauhaus, and the Butthole Surfers as major influences). These bands never formed a distinct movement or scene; rather they were bound by their incorporation of traditional metal influences and openness to experimenting with the form, usually by way of their eclectic influences and uncommon approaches. For example, Jane's Addiction utilized performance art and a bohemian aesthetic, Corrosion of Conformity, The Melvins and the now defunct grunge band Soundgarden had a fondness for subverting '70s metal, and Faith No More injected funk and rap music into their brand of alternative metal, while Primus incorperates funk, progressive rock, elements of thrash metal and punk rock, and an obscure Residents-esque touch in to their form of the genre.
The grunge movement of the early 1990s, which itself was a combination of 70's metal like Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath and underground punk, helped increase the audience for such bands, and these artists were as comfortable playing to alternative rock fans on various Lollapalooza line-ups (itself founded by Jane's Addiction frontman Perry Farrell) as they were opening for metal bands like Metallica. With the changing of the musical landscape by the popular breakthrough of alternative rock, "alternative metal" became a new phrase used to describe bands in the early 1990s who managed to make relevant Nirvana era music that, as metal historian Ian Christe states, was "heavy without necessarily being metal". Newer bands emerged in this era with their distinctive takes on metal: White Zombie, Nine Inch Nails and Fear Factory started the industrial wave, combining techno-like beats and heavy guitars, Tool immersed itself in prog-rock influences, Rage Against the Machine was as informed by hip hop and post-punk agitprop such as Gang of Four as it was by metal, and Helmet molded a background in jazz and noise-rock/post-hardcore influences into a highly influential strand of intense rock music.
As the 90s progressed, alternative metal's sound became more standardized as newer bands drew inspiration for the same collective set of influences that included RATM, Korn, Nine Inch Nails, and Helmet. Helmet in particular, with its downtuned riffs and aggressive dissonance, created the sonic template for the nu metal movement. The chief distinctions between alternative metal and nu metal, aside from the generic sound, are the latter's tenuous (or even non-existant) connection to the underground rock scene and the DIY ethos that informed the musical approaches of past alternative metal bands, as well as the reluctancy of alternative metal bands to explicitly align themselves under the heavy metal banner.
A few good examples of Alternative metal acts are (but not limited to): Alice in Chains, Biohazard, Corrosion of Conformity, Deftones, Faith No More, Helmet, Jane's Addiction, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Living Colour, Marilyn Manson, Melvins, Ministry, Mr. Bungle, Nine Inch Nails, A Perfect Circle, Primus, Rage Against the Machine, Rollins Band, Soulfly, Soundgarden, System of a Down, Tool, and White Zombie.
by Beeblicowcarapis™ February 10, 2006
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emotive hardcore (yes it falls within the realms of punk-rock... that is to say D.I.Y. punk rock) cannot be mixed with metal because of the totally different ethos that surrounds the two.
emotive hardcore (yes it falls within the realms of punk-rock... that is to say D.I.Y. punk rock) cannot be mixed with metal because of the totally different ethos that surrounds the two.
boy 1 in bad metalcore/grind t-shirt - "that atreyu are proper emo "metal""
boy 2 in nice braid /texas is the reason /hot water music /quicksand /dag nasty t-shirt - "oh, fuck off would you? thats just bad metal"
boy 2 in nice braid /texas is the reason /hot water music /quicksand /dag nasty t-shirt - "oh, fuck off would you? thats just bad metal"
by Party Lewis December 23, 2006
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