Machiavellian victory

Something that seems like a win for everybody involved that doesn't lose everything, though they're often not actually getting/keeping everything, and are actually slowly losing little by little over a long period of time.

People thought it was a Machiavellian victory when a few houses in their neighborhood were burned down or gentrified, then a few more houses and neighbors were lost, and lost everything in the process, then a few more, until finally there was nothing left of what was once their neighborhood. The machine, and the people that were part of the machine took it from them, and they let it slip away from them without ever wak8ng up to fight for it.

Machiavellian victory by The Original Agahnim May 28, 2021

Machiavellian treat 

Something that seems to be a gift on the surface, though you're not actually getting anything, and are at risk of losing everything and being put out on the street (if you never fight).

Holding your breath won't do much good with a slow knife going further and further in between your ribs. The extensions of restrictions are just a Machiavellian treat for business owners to make them think they're getting something good by staying open instead of being shut down. Really, the governor is the one getting the treat.

Machiavellian treat by Solid Mantis January 8, 2021

Machiavellian victory

A win for everybody that was never really a win for anybody, since at least one person, if not everybody, lost something to the machine/system, or someone that was part of the machine/system. Disney was/is a master of Machiavellian principles, since people feel like they gain something by waiting in a line at Disneyland/Disney World for 45 minutes of their time instead of an hour of their time. Really it's Disney that gains from this, since people think Disney has a real concern for their families, and not for the Disney reputation and lost dollar signs that would come with any damage to the Disney reputation.

It would be a Machiavellian Victory if one of the two buildings was demolished, or if 4 or 5 of your 10 neighbors homes burned to the ground and yours didn't, you feel like you kept or even gained something by not losing everything, but half of your neighborhood is lost forever and half your neighbors lost everything. So, a Machiavellian victory is when people feel like everybody won because they didn't lose everything, when really just one person or entity actually gained/benefitted from what actually hzppened. Really most wars have casualties, so they are Machiavellian victories if your country doesn't lose a war, since somebody somewhere still lost a family member. Life is a matter of what you lose and not what you win or gain.

Machiavellian victory by The Original Agahnim May 28, 2021

machiavellian marsupial 

A rare specimen of nature who only comes out in the darkest of times, commonly to save some-or even the world...

This thing could also come under the name will (Will Thompson) as he only comes out at night, to be the superhero to my villain.

People ADORE him!

Bellow Will Eccleston btw

its will thompson! omg! machiavellian marsupial

machiavellian marsupial by Henri The Bloody God May 4, 2022

Psychopathic Narcissistic Machiavellian Demons 

Give me a break Jordan. You’re not going on a personal tangent, huh? Cuz Jonathan Haidt told you you weren’t. It sounds like you are. It sounds like you are acting out your personal vendettas against someone anonymous instead of “acting out” you’re “belief” in God. How are you not doing the same thing as the woke types right now?

Hym “See.... Didn’t you say part of the problem with people not standing up to the whole mob was that people didn’t agree but they were keeping quiet for fear of people coming after them? But with your new stance on anonymity it seems to be the case that that’s what you want. You want people to be subject to the same sort of fear except in the other direction. You’re not better than the trans-activists. ‘BE NICE TO ME OR ELSE I’LL WEILD THE SYSTEM AGAINST YOU!’ Just like the retard and those whores at the group home. You’re all the fucking same. And I’m the coward? How? You know who I am. Actually. Psychopathic Narcissistic Machiavellian Demons? So melodramatic. You’re a fucking wacko. Let’s see it. Let’s see how far you’re willing to go. Conflict avoidant bitch.”

Psychopathic Narcissistic Machiavellian Demons by Hym Iam November 14, 2022

machiavelli 

Awesome dude who lived in Italy a loong time ago. His best known book is "The Prince", which contains political tips for rulers. Some of his ideas from this book (and maybe a few from "The Discourses") as far as I can remember:

-The Prince must be ruthless.
-Effectiveness > good/bad.
-Power should be acquired, not hereditary.
-People are moral because others are watching. Political morality is lying and killing. Politicians must learn how NOT to be good.
-Be feared; cruelty is a part of the state. But remember that the best fortress that exists is to avoid being hated by the people. Three ways to avoid being hated: Don't be erratic. Don't be a coward, FIGHT. And don't do anything for no reason.
-Concept of seeming vs being: The Prince, while seeming human, must learn how to be a beast. Like a fox (cunning and tricky) or a lion (powerful).
-And my personal favorite, he talks about these two dudes named Agathocles the Sicilian and Oliverotto of Fermo who both held meetings/banquets with leaders and important people and killed them all and took over as ruler. Point is, the elite can be killed, they're not important. The people are important.
-Choose the people around you wisely. Ass kissers prevent you from seeing the truth cause they're always like "yes, you're awesome" to everything.
-For a strong society, you must assume that everyone has the potential to be evil and make laws accordingly. People act good only when forced, laws exist where desire is.

Lindsay Lohan was once photographed walking around with a copy of Machiavelli's book. True story.

machiavelli by g f b February 27, 2008

machiavellism 

1. A song by the Visual Kei Japanese Rock band Dir en Grey.
2. Being or acting in accordance with the principles of government analyzed in Machiavelli's The Prince, in which political expediency is placed above morality and the use of craft and deceit to maintain the authority and carry out the policies of a ruler is described.

"That song Machiavellism is so good! 'Hurry up, Hurry up, Wrist cut show!'"

machiavellism by alliepantsxx January 11, 2008