**Two people both reaching for the last cookie**
A: I'm so sorry.
B: No, please, I'm sorry.
A: No, I am sorry, I insist, you have the last piece.
B: Absolutely not, this is my fault, you take the last one!
C: This is such a Canadian Argument.
A: I'm so sorry.
B: No, please, I'm sorry.
A: No, I am sorry, I insist, you have the last piece.
B: Absolutely not, this is my fault, you take the last one!
C: This is such a Canadian Argument.
by apeape28 March 20, 2017
Get the canadian argument mug.A variant of the gambler's fallacy - "it is harder to dig yourself out of a hole than it is to dig deeper."
My friend Melvin won't stop buying Funko Pops - he says his collection won't sell for anything unless he has a complete set. I guess he's never heard of the coal miner's argument.
by Yegglemorph November 18, 2022
Get the Coal Miner's Argument mug.When Ones points in a argument are opinion based, have nothing to do with the topic, or is a hollow argument.
typically used when one is clearly wrong in an argument and in the moral wrong so one proceeds to spout bullshit as a self defense mechanism
typically used when one is clearly wrong in an argument and in the moral wrong so one proceeds to spout bullshit as a self defense mechanism
Person 1: Well i may have joked About Your suicide attempt but you dated a girl me and this other guy think is Weird!
Person 2: dude that's such A Thymer Argument
Person 2: dude that's such A Thymer Argument
by retardmoments69 October 22, 2020
Get the A Thymer Argument mug.Also called the motte-and-bailey fallacy. A sort of rhetorical bait-and-switch where one puts forward a controversial point, then claims that they're actually arguing something far less controversial if challenged. This is often done by giving something an agreeable name (e.g., claiming that people who oppose Black Lives Matter the group oppose black lives mattering as a basic concept).
First coined by the philosopher Nicholas Shackel in 2005 and popularized by Star Slate Codex in 2014. Named after a style of medieval castle, where the hillfort (motte) is surrounded by a walled village (bailey). If the bailey was overrun, defenders could fall back to the motte and better weather the attack.
First coined by the philosopher Nicholas Shackel in 2005 and popularized by Star Slate Codex in 2014. Named after a style of medieval castle, where the hillfort (motte) is surrounded by a walled village (bailey). If the bailey was overrun, defenders could fall back to the motte and better weather the attack.
"You don't like MAGA flags, huh? What's wrong with wanting America to be great?"
"Stop it, that's a motte-and-bailey argument and you know it."
"Stop it, that's a motte-and-bailey argument and you know it."
by admiralakbar1 April 22, 2022
Get the motte-and-bailey argument mug.So much of our current social and political discourse is based on proving the other wrong i.e. winning the argument. We don't demonstrate enough empathy to understand where the "other" is coming from and the merits of their point. A black and white world is a construct of our own imagination and our desire to imprint our views on to others. It ignores the beauty that the synthesis or fusion of diverse ideas enables.
John had made a life out of proving people wrong. He took pride in being able to argue against any position and win. He was a talk show host. One night when he was grilling a guest who was making a point around having improved gun controls in place. John, barely let she finish her sentences, was adversarial and was not listening. At the end of the segment the guest said; "John, do you want to win the argument, or make a difference".
by Yusuf Wazirzada May 7, 2019
Get the Do you want to win the argument, or make a difference mug.An argument that an individual will make despite the fact they don't believe the central premise of their own argument. An argument that's made just to argue.
by RalphMonkey June 9, 2008
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