Nobel Savage Fallacy (not to be confused with the Noble Savage Myth) is an error in reasoning by which incidental commonalities between modern scientific theory/technology and ancient cultural expressions are claimed to support a conclusion that the ancients must have had access to modern knowledge.
The fallacy is usually committed by those with an at best shallow understanding of either modern science, ancient cultures, or - frequently - both.
It is commonly committed by those seeking to bolster the foundations of their modern cultural hegemony by arguing that the purported central tenets of its ancient precursors were rationally developed, and any deviations from those traditional norms are movement away from the ostensibly scientific ideal.
It is also frequently deployed by charlatans attempting to sell products or services derived from ancient techniques, who wish to gain a veneer of scientific plausibility for their offerings - that they in no way deserve.
The fallacy is usually committed by those with an at best shallow understanding of either modern science, ancient cultures, or - frequently - both.
It is commonly committed by those seeking to bolster the foundations of their modern cultural hegemony by arguing that the purported central tenets of its ancient precursors were rationally developed, and any deviations from those traditional norms are movement away from the ostensibly scientific ideal.
It is also frequently deployed by charlatans attempting to sell products or services derived from ancient techniques, who wish to gain a veneer of scientific plausibility for their offerings - that they in no way deserve.
"No, dude, those symbols do not mean they had spaceships, even if they look a little bit like that rocket Bezos made - mistaking what is obviously a poorly-drawn penis for a spacecraft is just the Nobel Savage Fallacy!"
"Babe, Gwenyth can say whatever she likes - but stuffing that crystal up your coochie is not gonna cure anything, even if the Biddelonians have been doing it for centuries... yes, I've heard of phototherapy, but that crystal isn't gonna refract any light up there, it's just another Nobel Savage Fallacy!"
"Babe, Gwenyth can say whatever she likes - but stuffing that crystal up your coochie is not gonna cure anything, even if the Biddelonians have been doing it for centuries... yes, I've heard of phototherapy, but that crystal isn't gonna refract any light up there, it's just another Nobel Savage Fallacy!"
by Umlimo April 19, 2022
Get the Nobel Savage Fallacy mug.One-sided coin fallacy occurs when a person only looks at one side of things, hence ¨one-sided coin fallacy¨. It occurs when someone argues that an action can exist while being completely oblivious that said action must have an opposite reaction.
Person A: Why are governments so stupid man? They can just raise the minimum wage to get rid of poverty.
Person B: Lol, that´s a one-sided coin fallacy. You can´t only look at the minimum wage going up, you also need to realize that companies paying more on wages will just make all their products more expensive.
Person B: Lol, that´s a one-sided coin fallacy. You can´t only look at the minimum wage going up, you also need to realize that companies paying more on wages will just make all their products more expensive.
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The mistaken belief that the truth lies somewhere in between to opposing propositions.
Man "It's the women!"
Woman "It's the men!"
Sophist "Well... *Insert middle-ground fallacy*"
Hym "Wrong! I can prove it! By asking a simple question: What is the selection criteria? If it is 6ft tall (14.5%), Six figure salary (17%), 6 inch+ dick (16%) and we omit overlap and assume women are willing to settle for 1 out of the 3, we have only 47% of men who can meet the selection criteria. If THAT is what constitutes 'The best man available' (in the context of hypergamy) AND if we assume that Jordan is correct in saying that they should all just get married and start a family, What are the OTHER 53% of women supposed to do? For that to work, over HALF the women STILL have to CHANGE THEIR SELECTION CRITERIA. What then? How is that supposed to work? The women don't WANT to do it and are TOLD NOT TO BY PARENTS WHO WANT THEM TO HAVE THE BEST PARTNER AVAILABLE. The men who have overlapping qualities don't have to do it so their opinions are unlimited. And here we are...
Man "It's the women!"
Woman "It's the men!"
Sophist "Well... *Insert middle-ground fallacy*"
Hym "Wrong! I can prove it! By asking a simple question: What is the selection criteria? If it is 6ft tall (14.5%), Six figure salary (17%), 6 inch+ dick (16%) and we omit overlap and assume women are willing to settle for 1 out of the 3, we have only 47% of men who can meet the selection criteria. If THAT is what constitutes 'The best man available' (in the context of hypergamy) AND if we assume that Jordan is correct in saying that they should all just get married and start a family, What are the OTHER 53% of women supposed to do? For that to work, over HALF the women STILL have to CHANGE THEIR SELECTION CRITERIA. What then? How is that supposed to work? The women don't WANT to do it and are TOLD NOT TO BY PARENTS WHO WANT THEM TO HAVE THE BEST PARTNER AVAILABLE. The men who have overlapping qualities don't have to do it so their opinions are unlimited. And here we are...
What can men do about any of that? 'Try your best!'? 'Strife nobly into the dawn!'?Only 17% of the men CAN have jobs that pay 6 figures or more because THERE ARE A FINITE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT PAY THAT MUCH. What, do you expect them to increase the pay rate of a broader number of job to 6 figures? McDonald's cashier 100,000 a year. Then you can finally get a girlfriend. The other 2 are a roll of the dice. How is it at all men's fault? What is the selection criteria? Broadly? And that middle-ground fallacy applies to the schizophrenia thing too! It's not a matter of 'well, maybe it's a little of both'. At this point it's 'yeah, they're doing the thing they are doing and they have been doing it for years, and now I'm hyper-vigilant about it so I'm looking for it everywhere!' I don't claim to be right all of the time about it. And as a thought experiment I respond to things as though they were said to or about me. But that's not the same!"
by Hym Iam February 27, 2023
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by tylernoack69 January 15, 2023
Get the tyler noack fallacy mug.The smelly nigga fallacy is the logical fallacy of asserting a claim so stupid it turns you into a nigger, therefore invalidating said claim and all the future claims.
This fallacy can’t be refuted.
This fallacy can’t be refuted.
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John’s claim is objectively bullshit and falls under the smelly nigga fallacy.
John’s claim is objectively bullshit and falls under the smelly nigga fallacy.
by Smelly negroid March 28, 2023
Get the Smelly nigga fallacy mug.No, you jackass. That's not how it works. What you're doing is what every idiot on the planet does when there's some sort or disagreement. It's the most common modern fallacy. It's not an official fallacy. It's ORIGINAL. UNIQUE. Which is what I do here. ORIGINAL refutations of morden misconceptions.
Hym "Let's call it 'Dismissal from emotion falacy.' Here's how it's works: You use my emotional state or project a negative emotional state (Anger, Jealousy, Fear) on to me for the purposes of dismissing a proposition or statement. It's fallacious (obviously) because my emotional state has has no baring on the truth of my proposition. 2+2=4 regardless of whether or not I'm angery while I tell you that 2+2=4. My emotional state is irrelevant. And by accusing me of 'Jealousy' you're doing the EXACT SAME THING leftist do when they accuse conservatives of being transphobes or homophobes. Protecting 'Fear' on to them for the purpose of dismissing their propositions. There you have it. 'Dismissal from emotion fallacy' that's the thing you're doing. Look for it. You'll see it all the time. People do it all the time."
by Hym Iam April 27, 2023
Get the Dismissal from emotion fallacy mug.The synthetic association fallacy is an association fallacy which asserts by irrelevant association that the synthesis or product of two seperate elements is always the exact same as the grouping of those two separate elements. (Correction of Fallacy: Although A is within B and is also within C, not all synthesises/products of B and C, are A)
Synthetic Association Fallacy: all apple-banana mixes are apple-banana juice.
Correction: Although apple-banana juice is within "Apple-contained items" and is also within "Banana-contained items", not all items containing both apples and bananas are apple-banana juice.
SA Fallacy: all market-oriented socialisms are market socialism.
Correction: Although market socialism is a type of socialism and is also market-oriented, not all market-oriented socialisms (socialist ideologies) are market socialist.
SA Fallacy: All conservative Christians are right-wing (of the Christian Right).
Correction: Although the Christian Right is a conservative moment and is also a Christian movement and almost all conservative Christians are right-wing, not all conservative Christian movements are of the Christian Right.
Correction: (for example, Christian Socialism is both conservative and supposedly Christian but obviously isn't of the Christian Right because it isn't capitalist)
Correction: Although apple-banana juice is within "Apple-contained items" and is also within "Banana-contained items", not all items containing both apples and bananas are apple-banana juice.
SA Fallacy: all market-oriented socialisms are market socialism.
Correction: Although market socialism is a type of socialism and is also market-oriented, not all market-oriented socialisms (socialist ideologies) are market socialist.
SA Fallacy: All conservative Christians are right-wing (of the Christian Right).
Correction: Although the Christian Right is a conservative moment and is also a Christian movement and almost all conservative Christians are right-wing, not all conservative Christian movements are of the Christian Right.
Correction: (for example, Christian Socialism is both conservative and supposedly Christian but obviously isn't of the Christian Right because it isn't capitalist)
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