Definitions by Hym Iam
Better
Wow! That became relativistic awfully fast. Objective morality requires relativistic definitions of the word 'better?' There is a BETTER better non-religious people failed to achieve during the covid pandemic? Or that could have been achieved but wasn't? I mean, the religious are immortal so you can see why the are better equipped to deal with mass death. But THAT BETTER... Is somehow undercut by a theoretical better that hasn't been achieved?
Hym "Yes, but you have the button, Sam. You have the exact button you described. And here you are, not pressing it. I don't see how you're not the moral monster you described. The think you consider completely untenable (the weaponized schizophrenia) is occurring. The black pill scenario is occurring. You have the button. And what's worse is that the guy that it's happening to has a button that is the antithesis of your button. And you're still not pressing it. How do you reconcile that? How are you not the moral monster?
Hym "Yes, but you have the button, Sam. You have the exact button you described. And here you are, not pressing it. I don't see how you're not the moral monster you described. The think you consider completely untenable (the weaponized schizophrenia) is occurring. The black pill scenario is occurring. You have the button. And what's worse is that the guy that it's happening to has a button that is the antithesis of your button. And you're still not pressing it. How do you reconcile that? How are you not the moral monster?
You know what I think? I think you're a solipsist. I think everyone is (necessarily) a solipsist but you especially. You can even see it in the rhetoric you all use. Systems and models for emulation and corrective feedback. I really don't think other people are fully human to any of you. I don't think your morality is objective. I think it's just imaginary. I don't think it can be applied. I don't think you ever intend to apply it (because public policy is downstream from your morality yet still you're not a politician). I think is you ever had to apply it you would... Well... Do what you're doing now! And everyone would suffer for it. I really was going to bite the bullet on the weaponized schizophrenia, Sam. Really and truly. But you all were talking so much shit and you really did think you were better... YOU STILL DO! So, I'll ask again? What's my score? Wait! Decide whether or not you're going to press the button because that's going to determine whether or not you need to add one. How are you not the moral monster? And if to be that kind of moral monster requires you to have a damaged mind, how am I not right about you all being retarded?"
Well-being
Well it doesn't sound substantial because it's a nebulous term, Sam. And it does nothing inform us as to how we're supposed to structure society.
Hym "Because you can make the case that religion improves general well-being. Or prostitution. Or the removal of people's self-determination. It inevitably devolves into this dystopian nanny state like the season finale of Rick and Morty where the galactic federation takes over and people are all assigned jobs and given a robot butler to force feed them pills"
Well-being by Hym Iam March 31, 2024
Super Boner
Oh? No? Not one of yours? I don't think one mine would have say 'If there's no transcendant meaning, then we're animals.' I mean... If your transcendant meaning is to spread your genes into the future then how are you not just an animal? If transcendant meaning (for everyone) = spreading genes then how do you not consider everyone else animals? That's what animals do. Spread genes. Yeah, no, he's a plant. He basic spreads (what is essentially) YOUR THING (Jordan) from the Atheist side of things. He doesn't have a self (apparently). He's a human strawman. Him and Destiny. You're boosting people to live publicly as human strawmen with a picture of my face stapled to the front.
Super Boner by Hym Iam March 30, 2024
Ask a question
Hym "Ok. Fine. I'll ask a question. Will you come over here and take a look at this for me, please? I have something that needs 3rd party verification and I can't trust the people around me and this thing I'm doing only works if you volunteer the information freely. There. There's 3 of them."
Ask a question by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
Is God a table?
Hym "You know my response to 'Is God a table?' Is (necessarily) that there are people who believe God is a table, though, right?"
Iam "OH! What color are musical notes!? Do the frequencies of music note in some way coincide with the frequencies of light on a color spectrum!? Is the any crossover between though 2 things!? Ohoho! I bet they ARE colors! Oooo you have better hope they are not technically colors! Heheheheh."
Iam "OH! What color are musical notes!? Do the frequencies of music note in some way coincide with the frequencies of light on a color spectrum!? Is the any crossover between though 2 things!? Ohoho! I bet they ARE colors! Oooo you have better hope they are not technically colors! Heheheheh."
Is God a table? by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
Value
Oh, God, wow. You are frustrating. Ok, so, if you can't see how it's wrong, I will explain it to you. Ok... You know what? I'm not going to insult you this time. I was going to insult you but I've been at this for 4 hours now and at least you made me think.
Hym "Ok... This:
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
Gatekeeping
You aren't more deserving of success than I am and you don't care that the retard is suceeding arbitrarily because his cock is fat do you?
Hym "Your commitment to pretending the gatekeeping is a response to ANYTHING OTHER THAN disparaging your religion is admirable. I may be a psychopathic narcissist but we are not as different as you like to pretend. Which is why the mental breakdown. This isn't a tantrum. I'm not a toddler. I SAID THAT ABOUT THE RETARD AND NOW YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING IT TO ME. I SAID HE WAS A TODDLER AND NOW YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING TO ME. I AM NOT THAT RETARD. And like heat, what I said does not apply in reverse. When I said I'd show him a temper tantrum I was obviously talking about the murdering of him in a fit of rage and not this thing I'm doing here. It's just pretending Jordan. Plugging your ears and chanting 'lalala can't hear you! Lalala!' Until I go away. It's ridiculous!"
Gatekeeping by Hym Iam March 29, 2024