An ancient country and territory in south-east Europe in the middle of the Balkan Peninsula. In the ancient history, Macedonia was a great empire which reached its peak when Alexander of the Macedonians with his army shortly crossed the boundaries of India. Sadly, there's one nationalistic and scientificly unproven belief that Macedonians were Greeks. This can't be true because of several reasons:
Scientific proofs show:
1. Macedonians had different religion than Greeks - different gods;
2. Macedonians had different style of life - most notably Macedonians were eating while sitting and Greeks were eating while laying;
3. Macedonians never were in peace with the Greeks so it doesn't seem logical if they were the same nation to always fight among themselves;
4. Macedonians had language different language than the Greeks, the only remaining from that language are around 200 words - "glosi" which have no corespondation with the Greek language. So this is the strongest proof, different language - different nation.
5. Even in the history of the ancient Greeks, Macedonians were hated by the Greeks because of their superiority and also they were always named Macedonians, never Greeks.
Since the decay of the Macedonian Empire until today, Macedonia had almost never been fully reunited by Macedonians. Because of its perfect location as a crossroad of the Balkan Peninsula and beacuse of its many natural beauties, Macedonia has always been primary target of foreign occupators (most notably: Rome - 5 centuries, Byzantine Empire, Turkish Empire - 5 centuries). In august 1913, on the Bucharest's peace conferation, Macedonia was taken away from Turkey and divided between Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania in the order of amount od territory. Macedonians in these occupied territories, had literaly NO RIGHTS granted. The occupators ignored the Macedonian nation, Macedonian language, Macedonian culture, etc, forbidding the usage of these elements. These kind of regimes are in no ways less cruel than the nazi regime. This kind of regime goes on today in all parts of Macedonia, except in the Vardar part of Macedonia. In 1944, in the Vardar part of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia was formed as a part of the Yugoslav Federation. In 1991, Republic of Macedonia has achieved its full independence. Under liberate conditions, as the ones in Republic of Macedonia, Macedonians aren't affraid to claim their natioanl identity as Macedonians - true descendants of the ancient Macedonians. True descendants of the ancient Macedonians are the majority in the whole ancient Macedonian territory, but they are under strong regime and aren't allowed to claim themselves as Macedonians. If a country occupies another nation, it has no right to steal it's history and claim it as it's own, like Greeks and Bulgarians do to Macedonians.
Scientific proofs show:
1. Macedonians had different religion than Greeks - different gods;
2. Macedonians had different style of life - most notably Macedonians were eating while sitting and Greeks were eating while laying;
3. Macedonians never were in peace with the Greeks so it doesn't seem logical if they were the same nation to always fight among themselves;
4. Macedonians had language different language than the Greeks, the only remaining from that language are around 200 words - "glosi" which have no corespondation with the Greek language. So this is the strongest proof, different language - different nation.
5. Even in the history of the ancient Greeks, Macedonians were hated by the Greeks because of their superiority and also they were always named Macedonians, never Greeks.
Since the decay of the Macedonian Empire until today, Macedonia had almost never been fully reunited by Macedonians. Because of its perfect location as a crossroad of the Balkan Peninsula and beacuse of its many natural beauties, Macedonia has always been primary target of foreign occupators (most notably: Rome - 5 centuries, Byzantine Empire, Turkish Empire - 5 centuries). In august 1913, on the Bucharest's peace conferation, Macedonia was taken away from Turkey and divided between Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania in the order of amount od territory. Macedonians in these occupied territories, had literaly NO RIGHTS granted. The occupators ignored the Macedonian nation, Macedonian language, Macedonian culture, etc, forbidding the usage of these elements. These kind of regimes are in no ways less cruel than the nazi regime. This kind of regime goes on today in all parts of Macedonia, except in the Vardar part of Macedonia. In 1944, in the Vardar part of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia was formed as a part of the Yugoslav Federation. In 1991, Republic of Macedonia has achieved its full independence. Under liberate conditions, as the ones in Republic of Macedonia, Macedonians aren't affraid to claim their natioanl identity as Macedonians - true descendants of the ancient Macedonians. True descendants of the ancient Macedonians are the majority in the whole ancient Macedonian territory, but they are under strong regime and aren't allowed to claim themselves as Macedonians. If a country occupies another nation, it has no right to steal it's history and claim it as it's own, like Greeks and Bulgarians do to Macedonians.
Macedonians, the only true descendants of the great ancient Macedonians, are the majority of the whole Macedonia, but are admited as Macedonians only in Republic of Macedonia - the only true descendant of the great Macedonian Empire. Other countries which currently contain parts of Macedonia are just foreign occupators implementing nazi regimes.
by Macedonian September 21, 2008
Get the macedonia mug.Located in the center of Balkan Peninsula, Macedonia is ethnic territory compounded from three parts Vardar, Pirin and Aegean Macedonia
Ancient Macedonian tribes were settled on this territory and were united by the first Macedonian king Macedon. The most known Ancient Macedonian kings are King Philip 2nd who achieved to conquer whole Greece (338 BC, Battle of Chaeronea ), and his son Alexander 3rd the Great (or Alexander 3rd the Macedon) who is one of the biggest conquerer in the history of mankind who achieved to invade 75% of the ancient known world (Persia, Egypt,parts from India etc). Soon after his dead his empire falls apart in smaller regions, kingdoms governed by his generals and their dynasties.
Despite the nowadays Greek possessive propaganda there are many evidence why Ancient Macedonians weren't Greeks:
1. They had their own Macedonian language nothing similar to Ancient Greek (the language is the most important mark of one nation)
2. They never were invited to participate the ancient Olympic Games (the only allowed to compete were the Greeks).
3. They had their own religion.
4. Alexander 1st (5 century BC) was was called "phillhellen" which means "friend of the Greek people". He supplied the Greeks with timber which they desperately need it to build fleet to win the war against the Persians.
5. One of the most known Greek orator and statesman Demosthenes in his speeches called "Philipiki" (against the Macedonian King Philip 2) called the Macedonians a tribe that has no connection with the culturally elated Greece.
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The Macedonian region in the 3 century BC falls under Roman rule until the Middle Ages when Macedonian King Samoil creates big kingdom.
Macedonians are mixture from the the Ancient Macedonians and the Slavs who conquered this territory in 6-7 century AD (with the big movement of nations in Europe). This territory was torn apart in 1913 (The Balkan Wars) between the allied Balkan countries (Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania) which first banished the Ottoman Empire from it's territory (550 years under Turk rule) and then divided it.
Greece invaded Aegean, Serbia Vardar and Bulgaria Pirin Macedonia. Albania invaded small south-western part of its territory
The Republic of Macedonia was formed as socialist Republic in the Yugoslavian Federation from the Vardar part, its full independence achieved in 8 September 1991 after it separated
from the socialist system.
Ancient Macedonian tribes were settled on this territory and were united by the first Macedonian king Macedon. The most known Ancient Macedonian kings are King Philip 2nd who achieved to conquer whole Greece (338 BC, Battle of Chaeronea ), and his son Alexander 3rd the Great (or Alexander 3rd the Macedon) who is one of the biggest conquerer in the history of mankind who achieved to invade 75% of the ancient known world (Persia, Egypt,parts from India etc). Soon after his dead his empire falls apart in smaller regions, kingdoms governed by his generals and their dynasties.
Despite the nowadays Greek possessive propaganda there are many evidence why Ancient Macedonians weren't Greeks:
1. They had their own Macedonian language nothing similar to Ancient Greek (the language is the most important mark of one nation)
2. They never were invited to participate the ancient Olympic Games (the only allowed to compete were the Greeks).
3. They had their own religion.
4. Alexander 1st (5 century BC) was was called "phillhellen" which means "friend of the Greek people". He supplied the Greeks with timber which they desperately need it to build fleet to win the war against the Persians.
5. One of the most known Greek orator and statesman Demosthenes in his speeches called "Philipiki" (against the Macedonian King Philip 2) called the Macedonians a tribe that has no connection with the culturally elated Greece.
...
The Macedonian region in the 3 century BC falls under Roman rule until the Middle Ages when Macedonian King Samoil creates big kingdom.
Macedonians are mixture from the the Ancient Macedonians and the Slavs who conquered this territory in 6-7 century AD (with the big movement of nations in Europe). This territory was torn apart in 1913 (The Balkan Wars) between the allied Balkan countries (Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania) which first banished the Ottoman Empire from it's territory (550 years under Turk rule) and then divided it.
Greece invaded Aegean, Serbia Vardar and Bulgaria Pirin Macedonia. Albania invaded small south-western part of its territory
The Republic of Macedonia was formed as socialist Republic in the Yugoslavian Federation from the Vardar part, its full independence achieved in 8 September 1991 after it separated
from the socialist system.
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by Brad Maines January 11, 2008
Get the Macedonian mug.A people composed of farmers and goat-herders who's favourite pass-times are spending all day in a half-drunk haze eating imported olives and feta cheese, drinking moonshine, arguing pointlessly and frequently, eating kashkeval, bread, peppers, pickled food, tomatoes and sausages, informing others on the history and status of their families and ancestors, and infrequently getting conquered by technologically superior nations (which is everyone outside Albania, and even then...) to the point of making the Scots look like champions.
According to legend, the name is derived from the root words "Mah-ke" (suffering) and "dom" (home) giving the name of this imaginary nation as "homeland of suffering".
Many modern Macedonians are very similar to modern Bulgarians, the language is almost identical, although they have had, for the most part, a different political history.
The world is generally composed of five people -
1. People who know they are Macedonian because they speak Macedonian, have distinct Macedonian customs and cultural idioms and attitudes, and come from Macedonian villages that have had a similar heritage AT LEAST since before England even was
2. People of Macedonian background who have adopted the Greek language and have adopted Greek customs, idioms and attitudes for one of two reasons (it's more chic for them to be Greek, or because it is simply easier for them socially)
3. Greeks who have picked up the imaginary arguments extolled by the Greek government and hold onto them collectively to the point of totally ignoring the blatantly obvious
4. The rest of the world, which really doesn't give a fuck and wants both sides to shut the fuck up ASAP, and doesn't really understand what both sides have to say.
5. People who think Kurds are Iranian and Turkish at the same time, that Scots are really English, that the Irish are basically English, that Native Americans should forget about their culture, and generally can't perceive political propaganda when they see it (or simply refuse to do so). Very similar to person #3.
According to legend, the name is derived from the root words "Mah-ke" (suffering) and "dom" (home) giving the name of this imaginary nation as "homeland of suffering".
Many modern Macedonians are very similar to modern Bulgarians, the language is almost identical, although they have had, for the most part, a different political history.
The world is generally composed of five people -
1. People who know they are Macedonian because they speak Macedonian, have distinct Macedonian customs and cultural idioms and attitudes, and come from Macedonian villages that have had a similar heritage AT LEAST since before England even was
2. People of Macedonian background who have adopted the Greek language and have adopted Greek customs, idioms and attitudes for one of two reasons (it's more chic for them to be Greek, or because it is simply easier for them socially)
3. Greeks who have picked up the imaginary arguments extolled by the Greek government and hold onto them collectively to the point of totally ignoring the blatantly obvious
4. The rest of the world, which really doesn't give a fuck and wants both sides to shut the fuck up ASAP, and doesn't really understand what both sides have to say.
5. People who think Kurds are Iranian and Turkish at the same time, that Scots are really English, that the Irish are basically English, that Native Americans should forget about their culture, and generally can't perceive political propaganda when they see it (or simply refuse to do so). Very similar to person #3.
EXAMPLE
Greek: 2300 years Macedonians and Greeks were the same thing! Macedonia is Greek! Alexander the Greek fought for Greece and did wonderful things for Greece! Alexander had a Greek teacher, he was in the Olympics, etc. etc. (insert countless pointless and distracting debating techniques here)
Macedonian #1: Ah bre! Macedonians were not like Greeks and didn't consider themselves Greek 2300 years ago, and the Greeks back then had differing opinions... listen here...
Macedonian #2: Forget it, it's pointless. This is stupid.
Greek: 2300 years Macedonians and Greeks were the same thing! Macedonia is Greek! Alexander the Greek fought for Greece and did wonderful things for Greece! Alexander had a Greek teacher, he was in the Olympics, etc. etc. (insert countless pointless and distracting debating techniques here)
Macedonian #1: Ah bre! Macedonians were not like Greeks and didn't consider themselves Greek 2300 years ago, and the Greeks back then had differing opinions... listen here...
Macedonian #2: Forget it, it's pointless. This is stupid.
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