I'm not going to get into the whole religious side of this issue, I don't know enough about the old and new testaments to be able to back up what I say about those. At least I'm intelligent and wise enough to not go making stuff up just to suit my purpose. I'm not religious, but I was raised in a methodist church, so I know a little about tolerance. I generally look down on close-minded people who refuse to think about why they believe what they believe. But! That isn't the point of this.
The real point of this is that some conservatives say gays have the same marriage rights as straights. Any one consenting man is allowed to marry any one consenting woman, regardless of sexual orientation. But that's not actually equal rights. Gays are being denied the right to marry someone they're attracted to, someone they'd want to marry even if given the choice of any human partner. Straights can marry someone they're attracted to, why can't gays?
I know enough about christianity to be able to tell for myself that neither god or Jesus wrote the bible. People, <i>christian</i> people wrote it. Jesus taught tolerance, forgiveness (The whole seventy times seven thing? Matthew 18:21-2. Yeah, I've read the bible), and universal love. He condemned grudges and all that promoted the idea that someone was better or righter than another. Jesus is the prophet of christianity, the main figure. Not god. It's called christianity after Christ, it's not called Godity. God's word can be interpreted how you want, but Jesus, assuming he was a specific person, said concrete things that should not be skewed for your own benefit.
God is wrathful, Jesus was not. This religion is supposed to be about what Jesus said, how HE related to god. Why does no one know this any more? They get so wrapped up in carring out "god's will" that they forget that they are subject to it too. What happened to Jesus's will and ideals?
The real point of this is that some conservatives say gays have the same marriage rights as straights. Any one consenting man is allowed to marry any one consenting woman, regardless of sexual orientation. But that's not actually equal rights. Gays are being denied the right to marry someone they're attracted to, someone they'd want to marry even if given the choice of any human partner. Straights can marry someone they're attracted to, why can't gays?
I know enough about christianity to be able to tell for myself that neither god or Jesus wrote the bible. People, <i>christian</i> people wrote it. Jesus taught tolerance, forgiveness (The whole seventy times seven thing? Matthew 18:21-2. Yeah, I've read the bible), and universal love. He condemned grudges and all that promoted the idea that someone was better or righter than another. Jesus is the prophet of christianity, the main figure. Not god. It's called christianity after Christ, it's not called Godity. God's word can be interpreted how you want, but Jesus, assuming he was a specific person, said concrete things that should not be skewed for your own benefit.
God is wrathful, Jesus was not. This religion is supposed to be about what Jesus said, how HE related to god. Why does no one know this any more? They get so wrapped up in carring out "god's will" that they forget that they are subject to it too. What happened to Jesus's will and ideals?
"But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."
~ Luke 14:13 &14
"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God"
Gay marriage and seperation of church and state:Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s?”
~ (Matthew 22:21)
~ Matthew 5:9
~ Luke 14:13 &14
"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God"
Gay marriage and seperation of church and state:Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s?”
~ (Matthew 22:21)
~ Matthew 5:9
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second of all, you cannot choose to be gay. you do not turn gay later in life, you realize it. it's a mutation in the genes. if you don't believe me, try to turn yourself gay. honestly, if you think you can turn yourself gay and then back, you shouldn't be afraid. turn yourself gay. sexually want someone of the same gender. it isn't easy, is it? neither is forcing your genetic structure to follow society's standards just because christians said so.
in the end, religion doesn't decide the laws of our country. morals and needs do. basic human morals are being kind to your fellow man, not banning the ability to love another man. it's religious morals. don't force religion on people, don't force sexuality on people. gays have never done anything like that to you.
second of all, you cannot choose to be gay. you do not turn gay later in life, you realize it. it's a mutation in the genes. if you don't believe me, try to turn yourself gay. honestly, if you think you can turn yourself gay and then back, you shouldn't be afraid. turn yourself gay. sexually want someone of the same gender. it isn't easy, is it? neither is forcing your genetic structure to follow society's standards just because christians said so.
in the end, religion doesn't decide the laws of our country. morals and needs do. basic human morals are being kind to your fellow man, not banning the ability to love another man. it's religious morals. don't force religion on people, don't force sexuality on people. gays have never done anything like that to you.
actually i'd like to see an example of gays ganging up on straight people because they're straight, or trying to pass laws based on their sexuality. apparently a lot of people thing gays need to leave straights alone. why can't they stand to leave gay marriage alone?
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