(LOGIC) a logical fallacy in which a person defends against an allegation by accusing an adversary of doing the same thing. It's a classic douchebag move because it implies that the speaker has a RIGHT to be a douchebag, by virtue of the fact that someone ELSE is being a douchebag.
From Latin, for "you, too."
WHY IT'S BAD
Suppose A is accused of terrorism. He reacts by accusing B, his enemy, of terrorism. Now, it's possible (but unlikely) that A actually chose this argument knowing he was totally innocent. More likely he wants to claim that his terrorism is PROVOKED. In effect, he's saying, "I have to do this, or I'm entitled to do this, because B did it first."
First, as logic it's a red herring. But what makes it douchebaggery rather than just another wartime propaganda tactic, is that it's MORALLY irrelevant as well as LOGICALLY irrelevant. The victims of terrorism almost never have any material control over either perpetrator ever.
From Latin, for "you, too."
WHY IT'S BAD
Suppose A is accused of terrorism. He reacts by accusing B, his enemy, of terrorism. Now, it's possible (but unlikely) that A actually chose this argument knowing he was totally innocent. More likely he wants to claim that his terrorism is PROVOKED. In effect, he's saying, "I have to do this, or I'm entitled to do this, because B did it first."
First, as logic it's a red herring. But what makes it douchebaggery rather than just another wartime propaganda tactic, is that it's MORALLY irrelevant as well as LOGICALLY irrelevant. The victims of terrorism almost never have any material control over either perpetrator ever.
ANNA: Abu Yahya, I don't know if your definition of "tu quoque fallacy" belongs in the Urban Dictionary. This isn't Wikipedia, you know.
ABU YAHYA: The reason I did is that I see all the time people using the rationale that, because somebody else did something bad to me, therefore I get to do something similar to anybody. It's sort of like sloppy revenge.
ANNA: Like men punishing random women because their girlfriends allegedly did something shitty to them?
ABU YAHYA: Actually, that's a perfect example of a tu quoque!
ABU YAHYA: The reason I did is that I see all the time people using the rationale that, because somebody else did something bad to me, therefore I get to do something similar to anybody. It's sort of like sloppy revenge.
ANNA: Like men punishing random women because their girlfriends allegedly did something shitty to them?
ABU YAHYA: Actually, that's a perfect example of a tu quoque!
by Abu Yahya June 3, 2010
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Could also be used to make fun of people who cite fallacies committed as rebuttals (other than citing the fallacy fallacy) especially If their accusation of a fallacy has no substance
Could also be used to make fun of people who cite fallacies committed as rebuttals (other than citing the fallacy fallacy) especially If their accusation of a fallacy has no substance
Person 1: *says something with a possibly fallacy*
Person 2: “Ad hominem” (or any other fallacy) “Your argument means nothing”
Person 1 or outsider to the argument: “Sussus Amogus fallacy”
Person 2: “Ad hominem” (or any other fallacy) “Your argument means nothing”
Person 1 or outsider to the argument: “Sussus Amogus fallacy”
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Offering a single exception to a rule to disprove the general rule. The tall woman fallacy gets its name from people using a single tall woman to "disprove" the fact that men are taller than women.
This fallacy usually comes from misinterpreting a general rule to mean it applies in every single case, e.g. "All men are taller than all women" instead of "Men are, on average, taller than women."
This fallacy usually comes from misinterpreting a general rule to mean it applies in every single case, e.g. "All men are taller than all women" instead of "Men are, on average, taller than women."
A)
Jack: Men are taller than women.
Jill: That's not true Jack, Mary is 6'3".
Jack: That doesn't disprove the rule. Even when we take Mary and other tall women into account, there are still more tall men than women, and the average height for men will be higher than the average height for women. A few exceptions don't disprove the rule.
B)
Will: More violent crimes are committed by young people than by old people.
Joe: That's not true, I knew a 70 year-old who beat up his wife. Are you saying he didn't break the law?
Will: No Joe, that's the tall woman fallacy. While old people do commit crimes, there are fewer older violent criminals than there are young criminals, and fewer violent crimes committed by old people than by young people.
Jack: Men are taller than women.
Jill: That's not true Jack, Mary is 6'3".
Jack: That doesn't disprove the rule. Even when we take Mary and other tall women into account, there are still more tall men than women, and the average height for men will be higher than the average height for women. A few exceptions don't disprove the rule.
B)
Will: More violent crimes are committed by young people than by old people.
Joe: That's not true, I knew a 70 year-old who beat up his wife. Are you saying he didn't break the law?
Will: No Joe, that's the tall woman fallacy. While old people do commit crimes, there are fewer older violent criminals than there are young criminals, and fewer violent crimes committed by old people than by young people.
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This is a fallacy because it (a) assumes people can adjust personal risk to replicate an incomparable situation, and (b) it confusing risk-taking and risky behavior. "Risk-taking" is a neutral term that includes anything that increases risk in some way, such as operating a machine at a higher speed. This usually is done to get some other benefit. "Risky behavior" is foolish, feckless, or sloppy behavior that has no intrinsic utility to the person engaging in it.
This is a fallacy because it (a) assumes people can adjust personal risk to replicate an incomparable situation, and (b) it confusing risk-taking and risky behavior. "Risk-taking" is a neutral term that includes anything that increases risk in some way, such as operating a machine at a higher speed. This usually is done to get some other benefit. "Risky behavior" is foolish, feckless, or sloppy behavior that has no intrinsic utility to the person engaging in it.
An example of the curmudgeon's fallacy is the erroneous claim that safer cars make for careless drivers.
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