Someone arguing that directs the substance of the argument specifically to a spot which brings them pleasure to talk about.
Muxaio: You can’t treat me worse because I have a lower VISA status than you
Alp: That’s such a red herring fallacy and this isn’t applicable to the job status that you can’t get over
Alp has a pleasure for Fallacies
Muxaio: Don’t get too excited now, that’s clearly a half chub fallacy. We know you masturbate to the thought of fallacies.
Alp: That’s such a red herring fallacy and this isn’t applicable to the job status that you can’t get over
Alp has a pleasure for Fallacies
Muxaio: Don’t get too excited now, that’s clearly a half chub fallacy. We know you masturbate to the thought of fallacies.
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The principle that fallacies operate in two modes: absolute fallacies (errors that are fallacious in all logical systems, by any reasonable standard) and relative fallacies (errors that are fallacious in some systems but may be acceptable in others). The law acknowledges that some errors are universally wrong—affirming the consequent is a mistake in any logic that cares about validity. Other errors are system-dependent—what counts as a fallacy in formal logic may be perfectly acceptable in rhetorical argument. The law of absolute and relative fallacies reconciles these by recognizing that fallaciousness has both universal and context-dependent dimensions.
Law of Absolute and Relative Logical Fallacies Example: "He accused her of ad hominem, claiming it was an absolute fallacy. She pointed out that in political debate, attacking character is sometimes relevant and not always fallacious. The law of absolute and relative fallacies said: in formal logic, absolutely fallacious; in political rhetoric, context-dependent. Both were right, which is why fallacies are complicated."
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Get the Law of Absolute and Relative Logical Fallacies mug.The principle that fallacies operate in two modes: absolute fallacies (errors that are fallacious in all contexts, by any reasonable standard) and relative fallacies (errors that are fallacious in some contexts but may be acceptable or even valid in others). The law acknowledges that some fallacies are universally wrong—affirming the consequent, denying the antecedent, non sequiturs that genuinely don't follow. Other fallacies are context-dependent—appeals to emotion that are appropriate in some settings, ad hominem that is relevant, slippery slopes that sometimes happen. The law of absolute and relative fallacies reconciles the need for logical standards with the reality of contextual reasoning.
Law of the Absolute and Relative Fallacies Example: "They debated whether his emotional appeal was fallacious. Absolute fallacies: non sequiturs, formal errors—he hadn't committed those. Relative fallacies: emotional appeals can be fallacious in some contexts, appropriate in others. Here, asking for compassion was relevant. The law said: relatively, not absolutely fallacious. She accepted the nuance, which is rare in online arguments."
by Dumu The Void February 17, 2026
Get the Law of the Absolute and Relative Fallacies mug.A framework for evaluating fallacies along eight key dimensions. The 8 axes are: 1) Formal Validity (how well it follows logical form), 2) Informal Soundness (how reasonable it is in context), 3) Evidential Support (how much evidence backs it), 4) Contextual Appropriateness (whether the reasoning fits the context), 5) Intentionality (whether the fallacy is deliberate), 6) Magnitude (how severely it distorts reasoning), 7) Correctability (whether it can be easily corrected), and 8) Consequential Impact (how much harm it causes). These axes allow for nuanced evaluation of fallaciousness.
The 8 Axes of the Fallacy Spectrum Example: "The argument was called a slippery slope. The 8 axes showed: formal validity (weak), informal soundness (some steps plausible), evidential support (little), contextual appropriateness (political debate, where such arguments are common), intentionality (probably deliberate), magnitude (moderate), correctability (hard, as it fit a narrative). The axes explained why the label 'fallacy' wasn't enough—it was fallacious, but in specific ways, to a specific degree."
by Dumu The Void March 7, 2026
Get the The 8 Axes of the Fallacy Spectrum mug.An expanded framework adding eight dimensions for even more nuanced fallacy evaluation. The additional axes include: 9) Cultural Recognition (whether the culture sees it as fallacious), 10) Historical Usage (how it's been used historically), 11) Psychological Basis (what cognitive processes produce it), 12) Persuasive Power (how convincing it is despite being fallacious), 13) Audience Dependence (whether it works better on some audiences), 14) Immunity to Correction (how resistant it is to debunking), 15) Systemic Embeddedness (whether it's part of a larger fallacious system), and 16) Epistemic Function (whether it sometimes serves useful purposes). The 16 axes provide comprehensive fallacy analysis.
The 16 Axes of the Fallacy Spectrum *Example: "The conspiracy theory argument was mapped on all 16 axes: low on formal validity, very low on evidential support, high on persuasive power for certain audiences, high on immunity to correction, high on systemic embeddedness (part of a whole worldview). The axes showed why standard debunking failed—the fallacy wasn't isolated; it was a system. Fighting it required systemic response, not just point-by-point refutation."*
by Dumu The Void March 7, 2026
Get the The 16 Axes of the Fallacy Spectrum mug.A fallacy or meta-fallacy where a person demands proof, evidence, or sources from their opponent as if the opponent were a servant obligated to provide whatever is requested, whenever it's requested, in whatever form is demanded. Named from the Latin phrase meaning "give it into my hand," the fallacy treats the opposing debater as a butler who must fetch whatever intellectual goods the demander wants, regardless of relevance, burden of proof, or the demander's own obligations. The butler fallacy is typically combined with moving the proofpost: first demand a source, then demand a better source, then demand a different kind of source, then declare all sources inadequate. The goal is not to find truth but to exhaust the opponent, to put them in a servant position, to establish dominance through endless demands. The butler fallacy is the signature tactic of bad-faith arguers who treat debate as a power game rather than a search for understanding.
Example: "He spent three hours demanding sources, then rejecting them, then demanding different ones, then rejecting those. Da Mihi In Manu Mea Fallacy in action: he'd appointed himself the master and her the butler, expected to serve whatever proof he demanded. When she finally asked what evidence he would accept, he said 'I'll know it when I see it.' He never saw it."
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