by Bobbert Wilson December 13, 2021
Oh, God, wow. You are frustrating. Ok, so, if you can't see how it's wrong, I will explain it to you. Ok... You know what? I'm not going to insult you this time. I was going to insult you but I've been at this for 4 hours now and at least you made me think.
Hym "Ok... This:
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
by Hym Iam March 30, 2024
I've already described the ways in which this aligns with your purported values on both sides of the political aisle. But I also hit the Goku-button. So, that is why you are doing THIS.
Hym "Why post something that goes against my values? Tooooooo... I mean, for you, to save the children the would have been or will be saved by adequately addressing the problem I myself am having. For both of us, because the values we purport to have bare no relationship to what I'm actually going to do because I can change my mind at a moments notice and act against those values. Alex was just saying that YOU ARE TRYING TO ENFORCE repeatability and predictability... But that just makes me easier to kill or imprison. So does the weaponized schizophrenia. And that is why you are doing it. Make people as easy to imprison and kill without making it so easy that YOU get imprisoned and killed. I want me to be harder to kill. And now... I am. So... Don't you fucking worry about my values. YOU doing YOUR values is just doing whatever you're doing. Prime example: Ben Shapiro's moderators banned me for hate speech. If hate speech isn't real, how did I get banned for it? So, the problem is, you want me to DO YOUR VALUES and trust you to do your values... And I don't. It would be retarded to do that. Because then I would be do your values and you would be doing whatever you want. That's the entire point of the religion. Get me to do that bullshit so solipsists can do whatever (UP TO AND INCLUDING fucking retards instead of me and stealing my shit) they want AND! AND... then I have to forgive them. Nah."
by Hym Iam February 26, 2025
Maybe that'll be my thing... "Inside the mind of the modern sociopath for the low, low value of $9.95 a month"
by Hym Iam April 03, 2022
Your "Values" are just "Feeling you have regarding a certain behavior" For example, Hard work=Good < That's a value that people have.
Hym "Again, yeah, no your values are still shit and worthless. Your wife is a whore. It's wrong to subject kids to the creature so next time something bad happens to them... You know, there you go...
by Hym Iam July 30, 2023
Hym "You values serve only to delude yourself into believing there is more to you than a fat cock. Like a woman."
by Hym Iam July 25, 2023
by DAMEN CARMEN March 11, 2021