A Thymer Argument

When Ones points in a argument are opinion based, have nothing to do with the topic, or is a hollow argument.
typically used when one is clearly wrong in an argument and in the moral wrong so one proceeds to spout bullshit as a self defense mechanism

Person 1: Well i may have joked About Your suicide attempt but you dated a girl me and this other guy think is Weird!
Person 2: dude that's such A Thymer Argument

by retardmoments69 October 22, 2020

motte-and-bailey argument

Also called the motte-and-bailey fallacy. A sort of rhetorical bait-and-switch where one puts forward a controversial point, then claims that they're actually arguing something far less controversial if challenged. This is often done by giving something an agreeable name (e.g., claiming that people who oppose Black Lives Matter the group oppose black lives mattering as a basic concept).

First coined by the philosopher Nicholas Shackel in 2005 and popularized by Star Slate Codex in 2014. Named after a style of medieval castle, where the hillfort (motte) is surrounded by a walled village (bailey). If the bailey was overrun, defenders could fall back to the motte and better weather the attack.

"You don't like MAGA flags, huh? What's wrong with wanting America to be great?"
"Stop it, that's a motte-and-bailey argument and you know it."

by admiralakbar1 April 22, 2022

Do you want to win the argument, or make a difference

So much of our current social and political discourse is based on proving the other wrong i.e. winning the argument. We don't demonstrate enough empathy to understand where the "other" is coming from and the merits of their point. A black and white world is a construct of our own imagination and our desire to imprint our views on to others. It ignores the beauty that the synthesis or fusion of diverse ideas enables.

John had made a life out of proving people wrong. He took pride in being able to argue against any position and win. He was a talk show host. One night when he was grilling a guest who was making a point around having improved gun controls in place. John, barely let she finish her sentences, was adversarial and was not listening. At the end of the segment the guest said; "John, do you want to win the argument, or make a difference".

by Yusuf Wazirzada May 7, 2019

argos

The number one sourse of 'bling' and 'phat rags'. All must have fake gold necklances can be brought by chavs at low prices.

Oi u goffik! I iz propa frostd, look at me blingin' rags frm argos!

by The_Guru April 24, 2006

Argo Nonya

Term used by outlaw bikers meaning "Oh go...yourself, None of your....Business"

Cop: Where do you get your?

Biker: Argo Nonya!

by Juilus January 3, 2011

Some Argue

A weasel word preface used when a person wishes to make an argument or state an opinion while making it look like they are stating fact. If asked specifically about the "some" they've mentioned, the person will usually not be able to list a source of note. (You, by yourself, are NOT a source of note for the purposes of "some argue.")

Most commonly seen on open-edit sites like Wikipedia.

Wikipedia entry: "Some argue that President Barack Obama was involved in the mass murder of over 12,000 kittens in February of 2004."

Sensible person: "Care to list a source for me, buddy? Other than yourself, I mean."

by ratchet1215 June 15, 2010

Argyle

A small hick town in upstate New York. Nobody here actually has sex, unless it’s with their cousins. There’s a piece of shit family named the Lufkins who like to beat old men in the parking lot of Stewart’s gas station.

Damn dude, did you hear how kobe lufkin and his dad beat the shit out of an old man at Stewart’s in Argyle last week?

by Fuckkobe June 4, 2019