Definitions by Hym Iam
Value
Oh, God, wow. You are frustrating. Ok, so, if you can't see how it's wrong, I will explain it to you. Ok... You know what? I'm not going to insult you this time. I was going to insult you but I've been at this for 4 hours now and at least you made me think.
Hym "Ok... This:
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
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Is a hierarchy. You see it? You get it? I know it's a little crude but work with me here... So... to act you need a hierarchy of value. YOUR CLAIM is that the religious appiphony is that at the top of the HIERARCHY... There is not ONE thing... But MULTIPLE. So instead of THIS ☝️ It's THIS 👇
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And FOR SOME REASON... The MULTIPLE VALUES AT THE TOP... Don't need to be rank ordered. So, you say 'They're all equally valuable and constitute a unity at the top' but then you list several values within this 'unity' that consisted of 'Truth, Beauty, Justice, ect' but those aren't necessarily conceptually equivalent. 'Justice' is contingent on 'Truth.' For injustice to exist 2 things are required: A truth claim and an outcome that is non-concordant with the claim. 'Exploitation is bad (and therefore should not occur) + Exploitation is occurring = Injustice (literally)' And 'beauty' is inter-subjective and culture dependant. There are also some implicit assertions embedded in your claim, mainly, that the rank ordering HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE by the Abrahamic religions... FOR EVERYONE. There's more to unpack but my objection is this: That is God to you in the same way that the universe is God to a pantheist. And you're not wrong in saying it but it doesn't perfectly comport to the bible."
Gatekeeping
You aren't more deserving of success than I am and you don't care that the retard is suceeding arbitrarily because his cock is fat do you?
Hym "Your commitment to pretending the gatekeeping is a response to ANYTHING OTHER THAN disparaging your religion is admirable. I may be a psychopathic narcissist but we are not as different as you like to pretend. Which is why the mental breakdown. This isn't a tantrum. I'm not a toddler. I SAID THAT ABOUT THE RETARD AND NOW YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING IT TO ME. I SAID HE WAS A TODDLER AND NOW YOU'RE ATTRIBUTING TO ME. I AM NOT THAT RETARD. And like heat, what I said does not apply in reverse. When I said I'd show him a temper tantrum I was obviously talking about the murdering of him in a fit of rage and not this thing I'm doing here. It's just pretending Jordan. Plugging your ears and chanting 'lalala can't hear you! Lalala!' Until I go away. It's ridiculous!"
Gatekeeping by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
The center
You want me to agree that YOUR FAMILY is more important than me. I don't expect you to consider me more important than your family. I expect you to toss my life aside in the name of your family as though it were nothing.
The center by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
Dragon's Dogma 2
Hym 🙀
Iam "What?"
Hym "Dra... Dragon's dogma 2 😧🫵 Look!"
Iam 😱 "THAT'S A LION-MAN! THERE! IN THE PRESETS! LION-MAN!"
Hym "I must..."
Iam "It's not going to look like me..."
Hym "It will he as we should..."
Iam "What?"
Hym "Dra... Dragon's dogma 2 😧🫵 Look!"
Iam 😱 "THAT'S A LION-MAN! THERE! IN THE PRESETS! LION-MAN!"
Hym "I must..."
Iam "It's not going to look like me..."
Hym "It will he as we should..."
Dragon's Dogma 2 by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
Disagreements
She's allowed to have disagreements guys! See? The zealot has a neutral position on this topic and I allow THAT. So, it CAN'T be a broadened semantic framing of what constitutes 'disagreement,' Right? Get it?
A muffin "We can have disagreements."
Hym "But can someone take position that is antithetical to your position?"
A muffin "I'm not going to hire or associate with anyone who does that but yes and if I do hire you and you do it I'm going to fire you but sure... You can THEORETICALLY do that but I wash my hands entirely on the effects of doing that even if I'm the direct cause."
Hym "But can someone take position that is antithetical to your position?"
A muffin "I'm not going to hire or associate with anyone who does that but yes and if I do hire you and you do it I'm going to fire you but sure... You can THEORETICALLY do that but I wash my hands entirely on the effects of doing that even if I'm the direct cause."
Disagreements by Hym Iam March 29, 2024
The church can save this country
All you have to do is whatever I say forever regardless of whether or not the direct or peripheral effect of doing that is bad and regardless of the outcome...
A muffin "The church can save this country!"
Hym "Then why is it not doing that?"
A muffin "Uh... Well, you're not doing what I say forever."
Hym "Right, but if you believe that then you should just be doing that anyway, right? Like, you could save the country... But you're not doing it so..."
A muffin "Withholding aid and resources as punishment for non-compliance is part of the religion I'm doing to you."
Hym "Yeah, ok, so it can't save the country... It's harming the country by withholding aid (arbitrarily) and you're offering to STOP DOING THE THING YOU'RE DOING... In exchange for forever-compliance?"
A muffin "Correct."
Hym "So, you're not saving the country. You're destroying the country until everyome does what you want?"
A muffin "Correct... BUT! I COULD be saving it instead... But I'm not going to unless you fuck your sister."
Hym "Then why is it not doing that?"
A muffin "Uh... Well, you're not doing what I say forever."
Hym "Right, but if you believe that then you should just be doing that anyway, right? Like, you could save the country... But you're not doing it so..."
A muffin "Withholding aid and resources as punishment for non-compliance is part of the religion I'm doing to you."
Hym "Yeah, ok, so it can't save the country... It's harming the country by withholding aid (arbitrarily) and you're offering to STOP DOING THE THING YOU'RE DOING... In exchange for forever-compliance?"
A muffin "Correct."
Hym "So, you're not saving the country. You're destroying the country until everyome does what you want?"
A muffin "Correct... BUT! I COULD be saving it instead... But I'm not going to unless you fuck your sister."
The church can save this country by Hym Iam March 29, 2024