The wide-spread basic understanding/definition of “punk” includes a basic wanting to be different, is who is different.
A “real punk” will never stereotype themselves. To put this in perspective, have you ever heard a cheerleader say “Oh my god, I’m SO prep, that girl over there dressed in all pink is SUCH a wannabe poser.” … I doubt it…if you have, I pity you…greatly….for even knowing OF such a person. When someone’s says “Oh my god, look at that POSER!!!!” Does that honestly make them “punk” and therefore “cool?”
The name also came from punk rock. A form of hard-driving rock 'n' roll originating in the 1970s, characterized by harsh lyrics attacking conventional society and popular culture, and often expressing alienation and anger. Rock music with deliberately offensive lyrics expressing anger and social alienation; in part a reaction against progressive rock. (there are other definitions of this on this site way better than this one) This is what started the whole thing. But punk rock goes AGAINST stereotyping, (that would be the conventional society and popular culture) and calling oneself “punk” is just that.
There are “real punks” and posers. They ARE two separate categories. The above just proves that there are a LOT more posers then there appear to be.
First of all: “real punks”
“Real punks” are technically punk rockers.
A performer or follower of punk rock music.
However, in today’s hypo-heterogeneous music gene pool, there is hardly any real punk music, as a definition. It’s always “punk rock,” “punk pop” whatever. They all count. Punk (as defined above) is a type of music defined by LYRICS and ATTITUDE.
This means that punk rockers are listeners of punk music, with punk music categorized by the message the band is sending.
This is how we get posers.
“Punks” tend to dress a little crazy (crazy to “normal” people, the rest just think blue hair is cool) but it never really became a “fashion” until certain celebrities started calling it that. (Avril, Hilary)
Yes. Sadly, all those old school, before it became popular, punks were screwed over by, you guessing it, POPULAR CULTURE. Suddenly it became “cool” to be “punk.” To dress different, and do crazy things with ones hair and makeup.
This is not to say that everyone who does this, even younger people (and by younger I’m referring to people who couldn’t possibly have been punk rockers before, as in they weren’t born in the 1970’s,) are posers. You are a punk rocker if you listen to punk music. It doesn’t matter what you dress like.
How you DRESS has NOTHING to do with being punk. It means that either A) you honestly like the clothing style that has been termed “punk” and you wear it because of that or B) You’re a POSER trying to be cool and you think your clothes will do that for you and you’re no better than preps who obsess with clothes to become popular and think that other people’s clothing defines them just like it will define you as “punk” and “cool.”
Punks by definition, both above and social don’t WANT to be cool. They want to be themselves and rebel against anything they feel is suppressing them.
Posers are much easier to define them punks. Posers are people who pretend to be “punk” because they think it’ll make them “cool”
What I really want people to see is that by calling yourself a “punk” how much of a loser that makes you look. Claiming to be “punk” and calling other people “posers” does NOT mean you are a poser, I never said that, but if you think that it makes you “cool” to be “punk” and call other people “posers”, then you are. Realize that punk is NOT A FASHION STYLE, AND CLOTHING MEANS NOTHING WHAT-SO-EVER. Anyone who basis any judgment what someone is wearing and labels them from that is either a poser themselves or just a fucking rude and ignorant person.
The determination of punk vs. poser is not in CLOTHES or anything like that, but someone’s TRUE music preference and mindset regarding society and life.
A “real punk” will never stereotype themselves. To put this in perspective, have you ever heard a cheerleader say “Oh my god, I’m SO prep, that girl over there dressed in all pink is SUCH a wannabe poser.” … I doubt it…if you have, I pity you…greatly….for even knowing OF such a person. When someone’s says “Oh my god, look at that POSER!!!!” Does that honestly make them “punk” and therefore “cool?”
The name also came from punk rock. A form of hard-driving rock 'n' roll originating in the 1970s, characterized by harsh lyrics attacking conventional society and popular culture, and often expressing alienation and anger. Rock music with deliberately offensive lyrics expressing anger and social alienation; in part a reaction against progressive rock. (there are other definitions of this on this site way better than this one) This is what started the whole thing. But punk rock goes AGAINST stereotyping, (that would be the conventional society and popular culture) and calling oneself “punk” is just that.
There are “real punks” and posers. They ARE two separate categories. The above just proves that there are a LOT more posers then there appear to be.
First of all: “real punks”
“Real punks” are technically punk rockers.
A performer or follower of punk rock music.
However, in today’s hypo-heterogeneous music gene pool, there is hardly any real punk music, as a definition. It’s always “punk rock,” “punk pop” whatever. They all count. Punk (as defined above) is a type of music defined by LYRICS and ATTITUDE.
This means that punk rockers are listeners of punk music, with punk music categorized by the message the band is sending.
This is how we get posers.
“Punks” tend to dress a little crazy (crazy to “normal” people, the rest just think blue hair is cool) but it never really became a “fashion” until certain celebrities started calling it that. (Avril, Hilary)
Yes. Sadly, all those old school, before it became popular, punks were screwed over by, you guessing it, POPULAR CULTURE. Suddenly it became “cool” to be “punk.” To dress different, and do crazy things with ones hair and makeup.
This is not to say that everyone who does this, even younger people (and by younger I’m referring to people who couldn’t possibly have been punk rockers before, as in they weren’t born in the 1970’s,) are posers. You are a punk rocker if you listen to punk music. It doesn’t matter what you dress like.
How you DRESS has NOTHING to do with being punk. It means that either A) you honestly like the clothing style that has been termed “punk” and you wear it because of that or B) You’re a POSER trying to be cool and you think your clothes will do that for you and you’re no better than preps who obsess with clothes to become popular and think that other people’s clothing defines them just like it will define you as “punk” and “cool.”
Punks by definition, both above and social don’t WANT to be cool. They want to be themselves and rebel against anything they feel is suppressing them.
Posers are much easier to define them punks. Posers are people who pretend to be “punk” because they think it’ll make them “cool”
What I really want people to see is that by calling yourself a “punk” how much of a loser that makes you look. Claiming to be “punk” and calling other people “posers” does NOT mean you are a poser, I never said that, but if you think that it makes you “cool” to be “punk” and call other people “posers”, then you are. Realize that punk is NOT A FASHION STYLE, AND CLOTHING MEANS NOTHING WHAT-SO-EVER. Anyone who basis any judgment what someone is wearing and labels them from that is either a poser themselves or just a fucking rude and ignorant person.
The determination of punk vs. poser is not in CLOTHES or anything like that, but someone’s TRUE music preference and mindset regarding society and life.
Someone who likes music like that of the Ramones and/or the Casualties (punk music) and dresses however they want, doesn't care what people think of them, and who could care less about being famos and just wants to live.
by rurouni September 4, 2005
A fucking idiot, that often has a band, or plays on drums. But, if a punk does not have a band, you can call your own siblings that, as an inside joke, or if they do something mean to you. If one of your friends comes up to you, and says that you're a punk, and runs away, that certainly means that they're mad at you, and that you should say sorry. But if you tell your friend or sibling something funny, and they start laughing, they may tell you "You Punk!" just because it was a very funny joke. A punk doesn't always have to be mean, but often appears to be weird, has a band, or often goes crazy. You'll often spot a punk doing a cartwheel, or doing a crazy made-up dance.
"Damn, Johannson, why are you being such an idiot?! Isn't it super easy to learn to play the piano?"
"I'm trying! Why are you being so mean, you PUNK!!"
"I'm trying! Why are you being so mean, you PUNK!!"
by BigPutz41 April 28, 2022
by Nubbling August 30, 2005
Cool caveman music with a fuckyou attitude.Only real punks know the sounds associated with true punk.
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It's really pretty undefinable but most people who think they know what it is or how it's supposed to sound usually have alot of wrong ideas about it thanks to Mtv in the 80's and beyond.
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punk is all about being yourself, liking what you like, doing what you do and not having to live upto someone elses expectations, only your own. there is no dress code, hair colour or rules to be punk, since punk is about being true to yourself.
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^^^fuck an A bud,that's right the fuck on!
People should just be them fuckin selves and stop being goth or emo or metal or black metal or death metal or punks or preps or jocks or twats or what the fuck ever else and just fuckin be cool and have some fuckin respect for one another.
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It's really pretty undefinable but most people who think they know what it is or how it's supposed to sound usually have alot of wrong ideas about it thanks to Mtv in the 80's and beyond.
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punk is all about being yourself, liking what you like, doing what you do and not having to live upto someone elses expectations, only your own. there is no dress code, hair colour or rules to be punk, since punk is about being true to yourself.
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^^^fuck an A bud,that's right the fuck on!
People should just be them fuckin selves and stop being goth or emo or metal or black metal or death metal or punks or preps or jocks or twats or what the fuck ever else and just fuckin be cool and have some fuckin respect for one another.
punk is about not bein a punk
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think,say,do,be what you want
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listen to whatever fuckin music you like
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dress however you want to dress
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stop tryin to impress others so hard
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stop trying to fit into any one particular fucking category so hard as this is the most anti-establisment thing you can do is not let anybody define you and categorize you and label you
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You don't have to have a mohawk or tattoos or piercings,you don't have to do any motherfucking thing to fit in with any fucking body
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think,say,do,be what you want
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listen to whatever fuckin music you like
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dress however you want to dress
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stop tryin to impress others so hard
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stop trying to fit into any one particular fucking category so hard as this is the most anti-establisment thing you can do is not let anybody define you and categorize you and label you
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You don't have to have a mohawk or tattoos or piercings,you don't have to do any motherfucking thing to fit in with any fucking body
by `fuck it , October 9, 2005
A punk is a member of the "punk movement" from the 70's and 80's. These kids generally dressed in holey jeans and dirty t-shirts with old sneakers, mainly because they couldn't afford better apparal.
Punks were largly associated with the genre of rock and roll that was named for there movement. Punk bands were made up of punks and the music displayed the themes of the punk movement.
Punks generally believed in a few common principals:
1. They commonly felt that there was no future for them, and that they would end up in the same poverty that they had been born into. This usually caused them to act in somewhat destructive ways. They usually were angry at society for that they could not move up in the social ranks.
2. Punks were not in favor of the goverment. They felt that the government was unfair to people of there stature. Sinse they felt so against the goverment they usually acted out in ways opposite of what was politically correct.
3. Punkers generally liked things perceived as negative such as violance, anarchy, drugs, sex, and things of that type. They rejected the norm of society, probably because the norm of society had rejected them.
4. They enjoyed punk music and dressed poorly for the reasons previously stated.
Punks were largly associated with the genre of rock and roll that was named for there movement. Punk bands were made up of punks and the music displayed the themes of the punk movement.
Punks generally believed in a few common principals:
1. They commonly felt that there was no future for them, and that they would end up in the same poverty that they had been born into. This usually caused them to act in somewhat destructive ways. They usually were angry at society for that they could not move up in the social ranks.
2. Punks were not in favor of the goverment. They felt that the government was unfair to people of there stature. Sinse they felt so against the goverment they usually acted out in ways opposite of what was politically correct.
3. Punkers generally liked things perceived as negative such as violance, anarchy, drugs, sex, and things of that type. They rejected the norm of society, probably because the norm of society had rejected them.
4. They enjoyed punk music and dressed poorly for the reasons previously stated.
Kid: Dad, you're from the 80's, what's a REAL punk?
Dad: Well I was a punk back in my day
Kid: Whatever dad, your hairs not green. Plus, you were POOR when you were a kid. You could NEVER afford the sick clothes all the punk kids wear.
Dad: Well I was a punk back in my day
Kid: Whatever dad, your hairs not green. Plus, you were POOR when you were a kid. You could NEVER afford the sick clothes all the punk kids wear.
by MThaliaB January 9, 2010
The clothes at the so called "punk" section at supre. It consists of hot pink and black mini skirts and tight sleevless tops that have things like "Drop Dead Gorgeous Guilty Bad Punk Rocker" writen across them in an old style font. Mostly worn by supre sluts with nothing better to do than disgrace the name of punk by showing their cleavage and asses.
Supre slut 1: Aw my gawsh! I can be a punk AND still dress like a whore! Check out my hot pink and black skull patterned mini!
Supre Slut 2: That is so puff and punke!
Supre Slut 2: That is so puff and punke!
by SammyG March 20, 2006
Punks are generally people who listen to punk music which has now become a wide category but whos to say that ONLY bands like the Casualties and the Sex Pistols are punk?
Punk isn't only defined by music but by attitude. Its often expressed by their clothing but many people without a retro spiked jacket and Mohawks are considerably punk. Being punk is being hard in you ways. This DOSNT mean ur a stupid jerk. Just means you know what you like and want and your not gonna just follow the grade, "go with the flow", or take any shit.
Punks= Anarchists? Cause the government gives us shit and controls us, punks don't take shit and do things they way they want so naturally anarchy is appealing.
Punk isn't only defined by music but by attitude. Its often expressed by their clothing but many people without a retro spiked jacket and Mohawks are considerably punk. Being punk is being hard in you ways. This DOSNT mean ur a stupid jerk. Just means you know what you like and want and your not gonna just follow the grade, "go with the flow", or take any shit.
Punks= Anarchists? Cause the government gives us shit and controls us, punks don't take shit and do things they way they want so naturally anarchy is appealing.
Punks aren't to be labeled. Punk isn't a fashion statement or just a genre of music. Its a state of mind and a way of life.
by Zumbie September 22, 2008