A win for everybody that was never really a win for anybody, since at least one person, if not everybody, lost something to the machine/system, or someone that was part of the machine/system. Disney was/is a master of Machiavellian principles, since people feel like they gain something by waiting in a line at Disneyland/Disney World for 45 minutes of their time instead of an hour of their time. Really it's Disney that gains from this, since people think Disney has a real concern for their families, and not for the Disney reputation and lost dollar signs that would come with any damage to the Disney reputation.
It would be a Machiavellian Victory if one of the two buildings was demolished, or if 4 or 5 of your 10 neighbors homes burned to the ground and yours didn't, you feel like you kept or even gained something by not losing everything, but half of your neighborhood is lost forever and half your neighbors lost everything. So, a Machiavellian victory is when people feel like everybody won because they didn't lose everything, when really just one person or entity actually gained/benefitted from what actually hzppened. Really most wars have casualties, so they are Machiavellian victories if your country doesn't lose a war, since somebody somewhere still lost a family member. Life is a matter of what you lose and not what you win or gain.
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A scenario where the outcome of a contest is clearly unknown, but the individual involved (typically a Dutchman) is distracted by an innocuous task and exits abruptly without warning, but later claims victory.
Possible Historical origin- Battle of Gasselterboerveenschemond, where the Dutch infantry fled during a Wallonian military advance in order to “Head home to oil their windmills.” Yet later claiming victory in the history books.
A scenario where the outcome of a contest is clearly unknown, but the individual involved (typically a Dutchman) is distracted by an innocuous task and exits abruptly without warning, but later claims victory.
Possible Historical origin- Battle of Gasselterboerveenschemond, where the Dutch infantry fled during a Wallonian military advance in order to “Head home to oil their windmills.” Yet later claiming victory in the history books.
I’ll take $200 Guilder for passing go and now I must leave to put new lacquer on my shoes.
But we’re in the middle of Monopoly.
I still win, I have the most hotels.
Typical Dutch Victory…..
But we’re in the middle of Monopoly.
I still win, I have the most hotels.
Typical Dutch Victory…..
by DoubleDutchman December 15, 2021
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During college night at the University of Montevallo, there are two sides: Purple and Gold. Usually abbreviated as “PV.” Both sides have this saying, but especially when purple side feel the love and connection between one another, they know what it’s gonna be.
by FalconManPV February 25, 2022
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In three months of war in Ukraine, Russia's "special operation" can only be called a putanic victory with 25,000 dead Russian soldiers and close to 100,000 wounded.
by Rand Kremlin Paul May 14, 2022
Get the putanic victory mug.An absolute draw, or stalemate; Otherwise used to flatter oneself after a close competition where one did not necessarily lose, but cannot rightfully say they won.
“Hey man! I heard you got into a fight yesterday! Did you win, or what?”
“It was a pretty tough fight, but I think I pulled away with a french victory.”
“It was a pretty tough fight, but I think I pulled away with a french victory.”
by Virum_Vixen July 12, 2023
Get the French victory mug.A “sideways victory” is an expression that describes an accomplishment that the popular opinion may not fully recognize, but an accomplishment which those who can adjust their perspectives may see the value in. Imagine; the letter V sideways may look like < , > , ^ , or even another angle. In order to see it in the upright position, you must either turn your head or the screen/paper you are reading on.
Similarly, in life, some circumstances or wins may not seem desirable or victorious from one perspective, but upon shifting your mindset, you may begin to see the victory in the circumstance or win. A sideways victory is a situation that you may not originally be able to see the good in, but after some thought or a shift in perspective, begin to notice the positive in.
Similarly, in life, some circumstances or wins may not seem desirable or victorious from one perspective, but upon shifting your mindset, you may begin to see the victory in the circumstance or win. A sideways victory is a situation that you may not originally be able to see the good in, but after some thought or a shift in perspective, begin to notice the positive in.
When the pizza delivery arrived, Kelly noticed that they had gotten the toppings wrong.
“We ordered chicken and bacon. This is sausage and bacon… What’s up with that pizza place?” Kelly said to her roommate Winona, who had ordered the pizza. Kelly was upset at first that their order wasn’t delivered correctly.
“They were out of chicken when I ordered, so I asked for sausage instead.” Said Winona. “It’s not exactly what we wanted, but they gave us some coupons for a free pizza next time and some free cheesy bread sticks.”
“That’s kind of nice I guess. Sausage isn’t so bad and next time we’ll get the chicken for free. I like cheesy bread. A sideways victory.” Said Kelly.
After thinking about it, Kelly decided that the sausage and bacon pizza was still good despite being different from what she expected, and that the coupons and free bread were enough to make up for the pizza place’s lack of chicken. It was a sideways victory, but a victory nonetheless.
“We ordered chicken and bacon. This is sausage and bacon… What’s up with that pizza place?” Kelly said to her roommate Winona, who had ordered the pizza. Kelly was upset at first that their order wasn’t delivered correctly.
“They were out of chicken when I ordered, so I asked for sausage instead.” Said Winona. “It’s not exactly what we wanted, but they gave us some coupons for a free pizza next time and some free cheesy bread sticks.”
“That’s kind of nice I guess. Sausage isn’t so bad and next time we’ll get the chicken for free. I like cheesy bread. A sideways victory.” Said Kelly.
After thinking about it, Kelly decided that the sausage and bacon pizza was still good despite being different from what she expected, and that the coupons and free bread were enough to make up for the pizza place’s lack of chicken. It was a sideways victory, but a victory nonetheless.
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