Similar to Ken Wilber's "Pre/trans fallacy", which is about conflating pre-rational views with trans-rational views, the Relative/absolute fallacy is about conflating relative perspectives with The Absolute perspective. This is the main source of confusion in the forms of spirituality that deal with the implications of non-duality (Oneness).
There are generally two levels to the fallacy:
1. The first level is the conflation that happens when you don't have knowledge about the distinction between the relative and The Absolute (dual/non-dual). This is common in pre-rational religious people (Wilber). The way that traditional religion interprets various holy texts is itself a good example.
2. The second level happens when you do have knowledge about the distinction between relative and absolute (but it's obviously not complete knowledge). This is common in (aspiring) trans-rational people. A common example is to think that because nothing ultimately really matters, morality doesn't matter, and therefore it's fine to for example hurt other people. This is to conflate "the relative" with "The Absolute". From The Absolute perspective, yes, nothing really matters, but morality can only ever be defined "relative" to a certain value system in the first place. By taking the absolute perspective, you're deliberately stepping outside of all value systems, but "it's fine to hurt other people" would be a moral statement, which means you're actually invoking a relative perspective.
There are generally two levels to the fallacy:
1. The first level is the conflation that happens when you don't have knowledge about the distinction between the relative and The Absolute (dual/non-dual). This is common in pre-rational religious people (Wilber). The way that traditional religion interprets various holy texts is itself a good example.
2. The second level happens when you do have knowledge about the distinction between relative and absolute (but it's obviously not complete knowledge). This is common in (aspiring) trans-rational people. A common example is to think that because nothing ultimately really matters, morality doesn't matter, and therefore it's fine to for example hurt other people. This is to conflate "the relative" with "The Absolute". From The Absolute perspective, yes, nothing really matters, but morality can only ever be defined "relative" to a certain value system in the first place. By taking the absolute perspective, you're deliberately stepping outside of all value systems, but "it's fine to hurt other people" would be a moral statement, which means you're actually invoking a relative perspective.
You're conflating relative perspectives with The Absolute perspective ("The Relative/Absolute Fallacy").
Albert thinks he is God and nobody else is. Albert has committed the Relative/Absolute Fallacy.
Albert thinks he is God and nobody else is. Albert has committed the Relative/Absolute Fallacy.
by Carich99 December 23, 2020
Get the The Relative/absolute fallacymug. A word that is used by people who don't have answers or don't have the energy to answer logically feasible questions.
by LogicMan86 August 14, 2020
Get the Fallacymug. A useful set of 'refutational tools' whose usage is mainly seen in random internet arguments but can also equally be applied in the IRL realm too, such as against your wife or your boss. The former scenario is where people often abuse logical fallacies to the point of committing a fallacy fallacy, so be wise and use them sparingly and only as a supplement to your argument.
Also related to non sequitur.
Also related to non sequitur.
1) Jim called out his boss by using logical fallacies to poke holes in his ridiculous decisions.
2) Tommy used logical fallacies to his advantage in order to expose the inconsistencies in his girlfriend's reasoning with regards to how he should spend his money.
2) Tommy used logical fallacies to his advantage in order to expose the inconsistencies in his girlfriend's reasoning with regards to how he should spend his money.
by Mary Mary Quite The Contrarian October 2, 2022
Get the Logical fallaciesmug. Definition: The Lamb Fallacy, or Fallacia Agnorum, is a type of faulty reasoning marked by intentional deception. It occurs when misleading information is used to create a distorted view of reality, leading people to accept conclusions that are logically unsound. Key features include deceptive premises, distorted conclusions, an intent to deceive, and flaws in the logical structure. The term highlights how individuals can be misled and underscores the importance of critically evaluating information.
In a political discourse, the speaker employed The Lamb Fallacy by selectively presenting data to support their narrative, intentionally distorting the information to mislead the audience into accepting a conclusion that did not accurately reflect the true state of affairs.
by Speech Increased January 28, 2024
Get the The Lamb Fallacymug. An argument that states that the existence of something before its first recording cannot exist or was less.
This comes from Mount Everest existing despite not being known to the western world until the 1800s.
This comes from Mount Everest existing despite not being known to the western world until the 1800s.
Shitbagpoliticiaon#34: We shall investigate why there was an increase of autistics when our diagnostic capabilities improved.
Person: Mount Everest Fallacy!
Person: Mount Everest Fallacy!
by Hoahobecth April 21, 2025
Get the Mount Everest Fallacymug. The mistaken belief that an argument is valid or true simply because it uses complex, scientific-sounding, or technical language—regardless of whether the content makes any actual sense.
“Quantum vibrations in your DNA resonate with the cosmic frequency of abundance, aligning you with the higher dimensional matrix of manifestation.”
“Wow, that sounds deep!”
“Nah, bro. That’s just the technobabble fallacy.”
“Wow, that sounds deep!”
“Nah, bro. That’s just the technobabble fallacy.”
by Jo Burn June 5, 2025
Get the Technobabble Fallacymug. Completely ignore what your opponent is saying whilsts sticking a finger up your ass, fingering yourself and staying to you backward arguments, despite getting proven wrong.
This form of argumentation makes the opposition want to shoot themselves.
This form of argumentation makes the opposition want to shoot themselves.
Kosovo had a better age under albanians? Nah, I'm just gonna bring up irrelevant points to show that serbs DID do some things in kosovo, but not enough compared to albanians but still enough for me to bring up and cope about it like.
Goated nigga fallacy!
Goated nigga fallacy!
by Smell ya later April 21, 2025
Get the Goated nigga fallacymug.