OH! OOOOOH!! I FIGURED IT OUT!!! THE ATHEISTS! I FIGURED OUT WHY THEY ARE ALL ON THE TRANS BANDWAGON! I've sitting here trying to figure it out and I'm like "How is it that all these atheists believe that their is an internal self that is divorced from biology?" AND I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!
Hym "IT'S THE DETERMINISM! They don't believe in an internal-self that can be both biologically male yet still ontologically-female! They believe that the conclusion that is draw by the transgenders is the DIRECT RESULT of an antecedent chain that LEAVES THEM NO CHOICE but to conclude that they are a women! They have to choice but to be the thing the antecedent chain leads them to believe that they are (in a deterministic fashion)! And they can't be WRONG because then determinism is wrong! And they can't be RIGHT because then GOD is wrong! It's not that the trans are just declaring themselves thus (To the atheists, Jordan, you fucking doofus)! They aren't what they say they are. It doesn't even matter if what they are saying is congruent with objective reality!
Hym "IT'S THE DETERMINISM! They don't believe in an internal-self that can be both biologically male yet still ontologically-female! They believe that the conclusion that is draw by the transgenders is the DIRECT RESULT of an antecedent chain that LEAVES THEM NO CHOICE but to conclude that they are a women! They have to choice but to be the thing the antecedent chain leads them to believe that they are (in a deterministic fashion)! And they can't be WRONG because then determinism is wrong! And they can't be RIGHT because then GOD is wrong! It's not that the trans are just declaring themselves thus (To the atheists, Jordan, you fucking doofus)! They aren't what they say they are. It doesn't even matter if what they are saying is congruent with objective reality!
They have no choice but to believe what they believe in the context of determinism! That's why Sam Harris doesn't want have to give people a choice regarding the vaccine! That's why he doesn't care if they censor the Hunter Biden laptop story! That's why he wants to arbitrate to whom we should be listening! Because to get the outcome he desires he needs to disrupt and supplant the antecedent chain with his... I guess ALSO antecedent chain and guide everyone towards 'The Greater Good!' We don't need a choice because WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE FIRST PLACE! He's a little psychic NAZI! HOOOLY SHIT SAM! That is EVIL! I love it but DAMN! You are so fucking lucky I'm not in control of my guys right now! Your illusory choices would reduce to 0 so fast it would make that big fat Jew nose spin! HOOOO MAN! That is wild! Damn I'm smart! Did YOU GUYS think of that? No!? That's totally it dawg! That's the whole transgender thing right there! Trans chain leads to 'trans.' Greater good chain leads to 'say whatever you need to say to prevent them from killing themselves.' That's the whole Goddamn thing! Shite!"
by Hym Iam August 12, 2023
Get the Determinismmug. I'm glad that you brought that up because it takes me to my second problem with determinism. Let's try and visualize your argument.
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>ID - ID
R > R
ED
So, and action is either Random (R) or Determined. If it's Determined it's either Internally (ID) or Externally (ED) Determined. If it's Externally Determined, then you have no control. If it's Internally Determined, then the internal determination is either Determined or Random. And I'm guessing that by "Determined" you mean "The necessary byproduct of an antecedent chain in which the actor or mechanism could not have done otherwise," Correct? Is that close? Does that make sense? I feel like there are a lot of presuppositions that need to be unpacked.
Hym "So, how is asking whether or not something is determined or random any different than asking whether or not my bedroom is hot or cold? It's both. And neither. It's, like, luke warm. So, you presuppose the absence of a grey area between determined and random. That random and determine don't exist on a spectrum in the same way hot and cold exist on a spectrum. As though thinks can't be more or less determined or more or less random. Is the outcome of a coin to more or less random than the outcome of rolling a 20 sided dice? You could say that the outcome is determined I guess. By the exact about of force used to roll the dice or flip the coin.
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>ID - ID
R > R
ED
So, and action is either Random (R) or Determined. If it's Determined it's either Internally (ID) or Externally (ED) Determined. If it's Externally Determined, then you have no control. If it's Internally Determined, then the internal determination is either Determined or Random. And I'm guessing that by "Determined" you mean "The necessary byproduct of an antecedent chain in which the actor or mechanism could not have done otherwise," Correct? Is that close? Does that make sense? I feel like there are a lot of presuppositions that need to be unpacked.
Hym "So, how is asking whether or not something is determined or random any different than asking whether or not my bedroom is hot or cold? It's both. And neither. It's, like, luke warm. So, you presuppose the absence of a grey area between determined and random. That random and determine don't exist on a spectrum in the same way hot and cold exist on a spectrum. As though thinks can't be more or less determined or more or less random. Is the outcome of a coin to more or less random than the outcome of rolling a 20 sided dice? You could say that the outcome is determined I guess. By the exact about of force used to roll the dice or flip the coin.
The relationship between the material of the dice and the material of the surface of the table or the conditions of the air in the room you're flipping the coin. Also, if we accept 'determined' as 'the necessary byproduct of an antecedent chain in which the actor or mechanism could not have done otherwise' you presuppose that what happens in response to a given antecedent chain is what OUGHT to happen in response to said chain. So, Antecedent Chain A -> either Outcome A or Outcome B. If ACA -> OA then you have to presuppose that what ought to happen in response to ACA is OA. If ACA -> OB then, again, you're forced to presuppose that what ought a happen in response to ACA is OB. But if the likelihood of ACA leading to OB is 1% and it HAPPENS ANYWAY... What you have is NOT an outcome that 'couldn't have been otherwise' but, rather, SHOULD have been otherwise and wasn't. Ya feel me? So, I know this doesn't demonstrate free will but I don't think you have been able to successfully demonstrate that there isn't a point at which 'the self' is not the fundamental locus of control in any given choice. It's a good argument though. It's tricky. But it's like a weird semantic blackhole. It's like saying 'Well, if you don't actively control the firing of your neurons, you don't actually control yourself.' Just weird. Determined or random."
by Hym Iam December 5, 2023
Get the Determined or Randommug. Undertail shit. It means nothing. Just keeps the player alive, I guess.
Even though the fandom community thinks that it means more than this, they're wrong. Determination is kind just like a thing that keeps you alive like your organs. They think it means "woah fancy superhuman powers that is very cool use yes!!!1!"
Even though the fandom community thinks that it means more than this, they're wrong. Determination is kind just like a thing that keeps you alive like your organs. They think it means "woah fancy superhuman powers that is very cool use yes!!!1!"
by poisonberries December 2, 2021
Get the Determinationmug. A theory of anthropology in which disproportionately female-inherited genetic variation causes a culture to adopt a fatalistic (spectralistic) religion; whereas disproportionately male-inherited genetic variation causes a tribe to adopt a deterministic (particularistic) religion.
Generative determinism demonstrates that anti-semitism is ontologistic.
Generative determinism resolves GENETIC determinism.
Genetic determinism furthermore proves that ontologism IS causation.
Generative determinism resolves GENETIC determinism.
Genetic determinism furthermore proves that ontologism IS causation.
by sandraxine August 4, 2019
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