1 definition by DaemoneDarker
This is a response/question to 'Juanelo'. If you know so much about what the 'real deathrock' scene was about from 'back in the 80s', what was it then? Explain yourself if you can. And how does that differ from your definition of what it is today?
Quite frankly, your definition of what deathrock is today is absurd, highly offensive, prejudiced, incorrect. Your self-esteem is obviously so low that you need to put other people down who are different than you in order to feel good about yourself (see lame). Not to mention that 'deathrock' is a just a frickin' name that people came up with in order to define the sound of the music that ARTISTS produced and the ARTISTS (see individuals) who produce such music today usually only use the definition as a reference point to a name that helps describe the types of music that influence their sound. No-one in '1998' just arbitrarily decided to bring the 'genre' back. People who identify with 'deathrock' do so because it resonates with who they are.
As to your claims of 'closet faggotry' and homosexuality: It is not even fair to say that 1/2 the people in the 'deathrock' scene are homosexual but it is accurate to say that most 'deathrockers' and 'goths' in general ARE anti-homophobic. Again, most people in the 'goth' scene I know highly value diversity, individuality, artistry and personal freedom of choice as opposed to people like yourself who obviously see sexual preference as no preference allowed (see fascist).
As to your claims of 'lack of maturity': that is highly subjective. Some would argue that the ability and willingness to explore and expose the darker side of society, the human experience and emotions in general reflects a level of maturity and courage to deal with such issues as death, grief, etc. (see catharsis and mortality) and not giving a s**t if people think it's morbid or morose.
As to your claims of 'social ineptitude issues': what extrinsic constraints do you allow to be placed on yourself in determining how to be 'social' and what is defined as 'social'? In order to participate socially, one first has to be an individual. Individuals can decide how and to what extent they CHOOSE to socialize with people.
As to your claims of 'sexual insecurity': I don't see how this is possible as most deathrock and goth music is highly danceable - dance itself being sexual. Most goths I know are not ashamed of or afraid to express their sexuality. Are you sure this 'sexual insecurity' you speak of is not just a projection?
As to your claim of 'high rates of pretension': see fun, camp sense of humor, halloween, imagination.
Quite frankly, your definition of what deathrock is today is absurd, highly offensive, prejudiced, incorrect. Your self-esteem is obviously so low that you need to put other people down who are different than you in order to feel good about yourself (see lame). Not to mention that 'deathrock' is a just a frickin' name that people came up with in order to define the sound of the music that ARTISTS produced and the ARTISTS (see individuals) who produce such music today usually only use the definition as a reference point to a name that helps describe the types of music that influence their sound. No-one in '1998' just arbitrarily decided to bring the 'genre' back. People who identify with 'deathrock' do so because it resonates with who they are.
As to your claims of 'closet faggotry' and homosexuality: It is not even fair to say that 1/2 the people in the 'deathrock' scene are homosexual but it is accurate to say that most 'deathrockers' and 'goths' in general ARE anti-homophobic. Again, most people in the 'goth' scene I know highly value diversity, individuality, artistry and personal freedom of choice as opposed to people like yourself who obviously see sexual preference as no preference allowed (see fascist).
As to your claims of 'lack of maturity': that is highly subjective. Some would argue that the ability and willingness to explore and expose the darker side of society, the human experience and emotions in general reflects a level of maturity and courage to deal with such issues as death, grief, etc. (see catharsis and mortality) and not giving a s**t if people think it's morbid or morose.
As to your claims of 'social ineptitude issues': what extrinsic constraints do you allow to be placed on yourself in determining how to be 'social' and what is defined as 'social'? In order to participate socially, one first has to be an individual. Individuals can decide how and to what extent they CHOOSE to socialize with people.
As to your claims of 'sexual insecurity': I don't see how this is possible as most deathrock and goth music is highly danceable - dance itself being sexual. Most goths I know are not ashamed of or afraid to express their sexuality. Are you sure this 'sexual insecurity' you speak of is not just a projection?
As to your claim of 'high rates of pretension': see fun, camp sense of humor, halloween, imagination.
Juanelo made fun of goths and deathrock but secretly loves the thrill of watching a good horror movie.
by DaemoneDarker March 3, 2009