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A spin-off of the punk genre founded in Britain in the late 70's. It was popularized in the 80's for a brief time before settling back in the underground. The American sister-genre of Goth Rock is called Deathrock.

As a person, a Goth is an avid listener of Goth rock and its associated genres (deathrock, batcave, darkwave, post-punk)

False ideas about Goth:
"Goths are such because they like the darker side of things."
"Goth is about individuality."
"Marilyn Manson is Goth."
"Goth is about wearing all black."
"Goth is about expressing yourself."
"Goth is about worshiping Satan."
"Goth is about metal."
"Bands like Slipknot, Flyleaf, Lacuna Coil, Nightwish, Evanescence etc. are Goth."

GOTH/DEATHROCK BANDS (a brief listing)
.45 Grave
13th Chime
1919
Acid Bats
All Gone Dead
Bauhaus
Christian Death
Cinema Strange
Corpus Delicti
the Cure
Darlings' Cabinet of Sundry Horror
Deadchovsky
Eat Your Make-Up
HOLY COW
the Horrors
Kommunity FK
*early* London After Midnight
the Naked and the Dead
Peter Murphy
Quidam
Red Lipstick Death
Red Lorrry Yellow Lorry
Scarlet's Remains
Screams for Tina
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Siouxsie Sioux
Sisters of Mercy
Southern Death Cult
Theatre of Ice (yes, Theatre)
Tragic Black
Undying Legacy
Voodoo Church
Zombie Zex
person 1: "I listen to Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy!!! I'm Goth!!"

person 2: "No, you're a fag. Nightwish is Goth!!"

Person 2 is in the wrong.
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A label society uses to stereotype people who the public in general tend to consider "bad," or "scary."

"Goth" people are the type that many will go out of their way to avoid.

I can't speak for others who have been labelled, but many have refferred to me as "Goth." Presumably because I choose to wear black most of the time. usually with a trenchcoat. I have read many of the other definitions on here, and I can't say what is wright and what is wrong. This is simply the only stereotype I have been accused of being a part of. Personally I spent approximately 12 years with strong suicidal desires, later being diagnosed with bi-polar. The only really apparent aspects of my personality that I noticed which differ from "Normal," are my preference for black clothing, and I tend to stay back and speak less. Personally I consider stereotypes a lame attempt some people or groups make to attempt to seem "better" than others.

The most irritating part of this aspect of society to me, is when I meet people who suddenly decide to wear black and act depressed.
I have no problem with anyone wearing anything else, I merely get irritated when people try to be something they aren't. Especially when people talk about being suicidal and have no idea the struggle I go through on a regular basis simply to keep a desire to live. It's not pleasant, you don't want it, quit trying.

I have never met another person who has serious issues with being suicidal and has just decided to announce it. I certainly prefer to have nobody know.
"ooh, look at me, I must be cool now because I decided to wear black and tell everyone how much life sucks, I'm such a goth, you guys all are just posers blah blah blah, wanna go but something depressing with me?"

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Ive just been reading this column...I'm not a goth...More of a heavy I guess. Most of these "categories" you're all making don't mean anything. Goth is just a stupid label given to us by chavs -see chav-. They try to use it as an insult to us but really it's merely a compliment to our creative styles and fashions, as opposed to buying a pair off adidas trainers because we saw a bloke on t.v. wearing them. Goth's exist...but they are rare and few. Categories don't exist. If you consider yourself a goth, then unfortuantely yes...you may be a poser, but to the rest of you... "Stop categorising us" and to any chavs out there..."..i. II ,i.." Go f**k yourselves.
-Urban dictionary know it all's post-
"I hereby declare there are four types of goth...*random ranting about life and polotics which are relatively unrelated to the subject* I declare you all wannabe's, I AM the only true goth around...*hobbles off with terrible limp from being so far up his own arse*
-Random dude browsing the forums-
"Dude...let people live how they want...and stop telling people what they are or aren't. Isn't that the fundaments of being who we are...which means...You aren't a real goth! HAH!"

-Random event and personal true story-
Chav:"Yo mosh, wot fuck ya fink ur doin?"
Mosher:"Simply going home dude...i'm not looking for
trouble..."
Chav:"Ye am truble bruv', n ur innit"
(Mosher can't help but smile at this comment)
Chav:"Wtf u say bout ma famly?!"
Mosher:*realising he's going to be attacked and beaten
whatever he says next* "I said bend over and I'll
do you like your dad does...bruv"
----------------------
Mosher wakes up stiff from bruising yesterdays and smiles as he remembers his line and silently mouths:"That was so worth it"
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Goth, although once an expression of individuality, is now a commercial image sold by big business. They now have shops such as Emily the Strange that promote and sell the goth image. If you shop at such places you are buying something that everyone can have and probably does have. Ergo, you are not a true goth who wishes to be individual.

Goth, as well as many other social groups, is a box that people are put in so we can organise society. People are labelled to make it easier for others to relate to them. I exhibit many chracteristics of a goth (outlook of the world, sense of humour ect,) but am I one? No. This is because I choose not to buy into a commercial image that has been ruined by our "friends" big business and lemming teenagers.

So, if we follow this philosiphy, everyone who calls themself a goth is a poser and everyone who dresses like a goth is just buying into a commercial entity and is therefore a sellout and a poser.
Goth: I'm so individual I dress and act just like all my friends because society tells me to.

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"Goths" are generally people who conform to a wide range of black-centric fashion conventions, and listen to dark styles of music. It's a terribly ambiguous label that applies to an immense amount of people. The label is inherently invalid, and is almost always pejoratively/humorously used these days, except by teenagers describing themselves. This usage is dying quickly. Teenagers are no longer interested in the "Gothic" subculture. At one point, there was a clear definition of who you can or can't label as Goths - it meant people who dressed in black, often dyed their hair black or some bright color, and listened to certain kinds of music. There's no longer a clear definition. Goths traditionally are considered to have a nihilistic outlook on life. In my experience, the people labelled as "Goths" are generally more intellectual, and more down-to-earth than most people. Also, in my experience, they're also often frighteningly normal, in the areas where it counts, by comparison to most people who dress normally and listen to pop music. When I was 17, i'd have proudly declared myself a Goth, but now, i'm 22, and with time i've found that there's significantly more to me. I dress how I feel at any given moment, I still dye my hair black. My shoes are combat boots, though i've never been in the military. I listen to Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, The Cure, etc. I'm a socialist. I'm a nihilist in the philosophical/existential sense. The label is easily applied to me. But, one of the greatest characteristics of people labelled as "Goths" is that we generally don't like to use the term for ourselves. These days i'd take it as a pejorative term. Often confused with the equally ambiguous/pointless term "Emo".
"Goth" 1: I like to read Nietzsche, and listen to Nine Inch Nails, and wear lots of black, simplistic clothing. My hair is nothing special, and I wear black makeup.

"Goth" 2: I like to wear flowing dresses, and often I listen to Switchblade Symphony, Rasputina, and occasionally am known to listen to something entirely out of character like the backstreet boys.

"Goth" 3: I just wear whatever I want, often it's black, sometimes there's metal in it. I listen to a wide variety of music, because I like it. Just because I listen to Manson, does not mean i'm as single-minded as he is. I also have great respect for classic rock.

"Goth" 4: liek OMG i went to hot topic and bought this uber my chemical romance shirt, and some pink bondage pants! i like to wear candy bracelets and dye my hair blonde and pink, but i pretend to have some sort of "dark" attitude, and have some intelligence and depth

these are all "goths" -
see how wide the scope of such a label is?
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A darker culture that can be anything you make it. Some impose guidelines, and other sad, decrepit, pathetic creatures try to follow those guidelines, but in essence, most 'goths' revolve around the basics of wearing dark clothing and being non-Christian. Marilyn Manson is not NECESSARILY goth, and neither is black metal. They could be considered goth, they could be considered not. It is entirely up to the beholder.
Ladies, you do not have to color your tampons black to be a goth.
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1)A Goth is a fan of gothic rock who looks the part. If you spend all your money on the fashion but still don’t listen to the music, or if you spend all your money on the music but still don’t look the part, then you aren’t a Goth. Goth is not a “state of mind”. Goths do not listen to black metal, worship the devil, or are suicidal/homicidal. Sadly, there are people who will actually follow these stereotypes(posers).

2)Goth is a style of music and fashion that started in the late 1970's/early 1980's as an offshoot of punk. In reality, goths aren’t any more “dark” than mundanes (average people). It has vertually nothing to do with being different, depressed, suicidal or the word “gothic”.

The first band to be called Goth was Joy Division when their music was described as “20th century gothic dance music”. After that, this style of music was called “gothic rock”, which really had nothing to do with the ancient Germanic tribe, The Goths, Gothic architecture, or the Gothic period. Then there was Siouxsie and the Banshees(who were actually a punk band), whose look and sound was immitated by various future Goth bands. Bauhaus was probably the first actual Goth band. Their song “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”(which is the ultimate Goth theme song) came out on the soundtrack of The Hunger, a vampire movie featuring David Bowie in ’79. Following Bauhaus were other early Goth bands like Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Dead Can Dance, Rosetta Stone, etc.

While Goth was more inspired by Glam, Deathrock(which was also happening at the time) was more inspired by horror-punk. Some early Deathrock bands include Christian Death, Alien Sex Fiend, 45 Grave, and Specimen(who opened the popular club The Batcave).

In the 1990’s when Goth was first popularized, there came a little band called Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids. This is basically what started the “mallcore” thing. A mall Goth is someone who wears baggy black clothes/shops at hot topic, hangs out at the mall, wears horrible looking makeup and listens to bands like Manson, Korn, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, The Birthday Massacre, etc. Basically a poser. This is also the time when Industrial, Cyber Goth and Rivithead got big. Things that were called Goth were straying more and more from what it truly was.

Some sub-genres of Goth(a few that I’ve already mentioned above) include deathrock, batcave, gothabilly, darkwave, EBM, ambient, ethereal, post-punk, etc.
Some popular Goth aesthetics include Romantigoth, Cyber Goth, Rivithead, Deathrocker, Gothabilly, and Classic Goth.
1)Oh my god, you have to see Carey's new Gothy haircut, she looks like Siouxsie Sioux.

2)Check out this new Goth band, they sound like Frank the Baptist.
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