Et tu brute?

Latin for "You too, Brutus?"
Used when Julius Caesar was stabbed by his best friend
An expression to be used if you've been betrayed or someone has told on you or framed you in a dirty way for example

Politician: (steps out of limo)
*Sniper rifle goes off*
Bodyguard pushes politician out of way
And shoot the sniper
Politician: thanks you saved my life
Politician walks past the bodyguard
Bodyguard stabs politican in back
Politician: " Et tu brute? "

I can't think of any other example than this

by Luvs2spewge August 1, 2022

Argumentum ad Te et Verbum

A compound fallacy combining Argumentum ad Te and Argumentum ad Verbum: claiming that someone is proving the opposing point by their word choice. "You are proving the point of the post by trivializing the word X" is the classic form. The move claims that the way someone uses language demonstrates the truth of what they're opposing—a double evasion that avoids content by focusing on the relationship between word choice and argumentative position. It's meta, it's clever, and it's completely unresponsive to substance.

"I used the term 'conspiracy theory' carefully in a critique. Response: 'See? You're using that term exactly how the post said people would—you're proving its point!' That's Argumentum ad Te et Verbum—using my word choice and my position to dismiss my argument without engaging it. My word choice becomes evidence against me, my response becomes proof of their point. It's a rhetorical hall of mirrors with no exit."

by Dumu The Void March 2, 2026