For the average hardcore gamer who gamed in 1997, a flawless masterpiece.
For the intelligent and thoughtful gamer, game designer, or fiction writer/lover/TVTroper, a baffling combination of the extremely impressive and the mind-bogglingly pathetic. It had an incredible budget and yet they didn't seem to hire a quality assurance team, an experienced music arranger, an experienced 3D modeler, or especially an English proofreader.
The story would be genuinely touching if the translation weren't a garbled, largely incomprehensible mess, and if the 3D character designs and animations weren't among the hilariously worst ever made in a 3D game. Much of the art was breathtaking for the time, but the character models, which are the most emotive and arguably the most important visuals in the game, look horrendous. The music is fantastic in concept, but whoever converted it into MIDI doesn't know a fucking thing about how to use MIDI well-- although I will admit many of the songs did actually turn out well. There were a lot of complex ideas coded into the game, but there are far more hilarious and pathetic glitches in sheer number than even Sonic '06 has, even if the actual frequency of the glitches in VII compared to that of those in Sonic '06 is only 50% at worst.
Final Fantasy VII is not the *perfect* game, nor is it the most awful *joke*. More like, it is the *perfect joke*.
For the intelligent and thoughtful gamer, game designer, or fiction writer/lover/TVTroper, a baffling combination of the extremely impressive and the mind-bogglingly pathetic. It had an incredible budget and yet they didn't seem to hire a quality assurance team, an experienced music arranger, an experienced 3D modeler, or especially an English proofreader.
The story would be genuinely touching if the translation weren't a garbled, largely incomprehensible mess, and if the 3D character designs and animations weren't among the hilariously worst ever made in a 3D game. Much of the art was breathtaking for the time, but the character models, which are the most emotive and arguably the most important visuals in the game, look horrendous. The music is fantastic in concept, but whoever converted it into MIDI doesn't know a fucking thing about how to use MIDI well-- although I will admit many of the songs did actually turn out well. There were a lot of complex ideas coded into the game, but there are far more hilarious and pathetic glitches in sheer number than even Sonic '06 has, even if the actual frequency of the glitches in VII compared to that of those in Sonic '06 is only 50% at worst.
Final Fantasy VII is not the *perfect* game, nor is it the most awful *joke*. More like, it is the *perfect joke*.
Bob: Hey man, Final Fantasy VII is the best game of all time!
Steve: If by "best" you mean it has "the largest gap of difference between the most amazing and the most awful points ever achieved within a single work", then yeah, it is.
Bob: Uhhhh... What?
Steve: If by "best" you mean it has "the largest gap of difference between the most amazing and the most awful points ever achieved within a single work", then yeah, it is.
Bob: Uhhhh... What?
by DenimMage August 13, 2013
Pigheaded, ignorant sheep-minded fools who refuse to admit that games have improved in the decade since Final Fantasy VII was released. Worship an overhyped video game because it is fashionable to do so. Also tend to target Final Fantasy VI and VIII as the popularity driven trend of hate.
Any attempt to improve or advance the stale, trite formula of: "Stand in a line, pick fight/magic/Item from a menu and wait.
-Or, moving past interface/designs that only existed due to hardware limitations-
are met with fear, irrational rage, insults and a refusal to accept change or improvement.
Immune to logic, common sense, counter arguments or objective, even handed thought.
Any attempt to improve or advance the stale, trite formula of: "Stand in a line, pick fight/magic/Item from a menu and wait.
-Or, moving past interface/designs that only existed due to hardware limitations-
are met with fear, irrational rage, insults and a refusal to accept change or improvement.
Immune to logic, common sense, counter arguments or objective, even handed thought.
Final Fantasy VII fankids want Final Fantasy VII over and over with graphical improvements only. They are also arrogant enough to define the entire series by superficial means like "being turn-based".
Nothing will ever be good enough because they don't want it to be and don't care how ignorant and stupid they look.
Nothing will ever be good enough because they don't want it to be and don't care how ignorant and stupid they look.
by Lig Na Baste June 10, 2008
Pigheaded, ignorant sheep-minded fools who refuse to admit that games have improved in the decade since Final Fantasy VII was released. Worship an overhyped video game because it is fashionable to do so. Also tend to target Final Fantasy VI and VIII as the popularity driven trend of hate.
Any attempt to improve or advance the stale, trite formula of: "Stand in a line, pick fight/magic/Item from a menu and wait.
-Or, moving past interface/designs that only existed due to hardware limitations-
are met with fear, irrational rage, insults and a refusal to accept change or improvement.
Immune to logic, common sense, counter arguments or objective, even handed thought.
Any attempt to improve or advance the stale, trite formula of: "Stand in a line, pick fight/magic/Item from a menu and wait.
-Or, moving past interface/designs that only existed due to hardware limitations-
are met with fear, irrational rage, insults and a refusal to accept change or improvement.
Immune to logic, common sense, counter arguments or objective, even handed thought.
Final Fantasy VII fankids want Final Fantasy VII over and over with graphical improvements only. They are also arrogant enough to define the entire series by superficial means like "being turn-based".
Nothing will ever be good enough because they don't want it to be and don't care how ignorant and stupid they look.
Nothing will ever be good enough because they don't want it to be and don't care how ignorant and stupid they look.
by Lig Na Baste June 10, 2008
ok i just want to clear a few things up here
One Half says that:
How exactly Sephiroth managed to come back is never explained; where Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo came from is never explained; how Kadaj became Sephiroth is never explained; the full story of Geostigma is never explained; the plot holes from the game were never covered up nor explained, and how Aeris and Zack continue to exist is not explained.
SO lets start with the three grey-haired men. As the movie puts it, they are 'remnants.' They are in fact physical manifestations of Jenova's memetic legacy within the lifestream, sort of clones of a person's genetic remains, except instead of genetic, they are 'memetic' clones (born out of Jenova's or maybe Sephiroths will). the fact that Kadaj visibly disintegrates into part of the lifestream when he dies suggests that he was not born from a mother's womb, but directly from the lifestream which still contains the presense of Jenova who exerts some influence over the lifestream and Sephiroth (who is physically dead). Kadaj became sephiroth because when he took Jenova's head into himself, the jenova cells with their form changing capability did what ultimately would be in their best interest to survive and changed Kadaj into the greatest soldier ever to live in order to fight cloud.
Geostigma also links into the presence of jenova cells in the lifestream. When the lifestream, summoned by aeris, burst out of the planet to fight against meteor above midgar in the end of FFVII, the jenova cells within the lifestream infected many of the people in midgar. geostigma is the result of the body's own 'lifestream' trying to fight off the invading jenova cells, as explained by vincent.
aeris and zack continue to exist in the lifestream (and in cloud's memory/dreams), simple as that. if you are a christian and/or believe that people have a soul and there is such thing as heaven, think of it that way.
as for plot holes in the game - some things in the game are deliberately left ambiguous (i.e whether cloud ever loved aeris), many things are left for you to work out yourself and ARE NOT spelled out to you in black and white, some things can only be seen by backtracking or exploring every nook and cranny. that and vincent is by far the coolest character in the whole series.
One Half says that:
How exactly Sephiroth managed to come back is never explained; where Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo came from is never explained; how Kadaj became Sephiroth is never explained; the full story of Geostigma is never explained; the plot holes from the game were never covered up nor explained, and how Aeris and Zack continue to exist is not explained.
SO lets start with the three grey-haired men. As the movie puts it, they are 'remnants.' They are in fact physical manifestations of Jenova's memetic legacy within the lifestream, sort of clones of a person's genetic remains, except instead of genetic, they are 'memetic' clones (born out of Jenova's or maybe Sephiroths will). the fact that Kadaj visibly disintegrates into part of the lifestream when he dies suggests that he was not born from a mother's womb, but directly from the lifestream which still contains the presense of Jenova who exerts some influence over the lifestream and Sephiroth (who is physically dead). Kadaj became sephiroth because when he took Jenova's head into himself, the jenova cells with their form changing capability did what ultimately would be in their best interest to survive and changed Kadaj into the greatest soldier ever to live in order to fight cloud.
Geostigma also links into the presence of jenova cells in the lifestream. When the lifestream, summoned by aeris, burst out of the planet to fight against meteor above midgar in the end of FFVII, the jenova cells within the lifestream infected many of the people in midgar. geostigma is the result of the body's own 'lifestream' trying to fight off the invading jenova cells, as explained by vincent.
aeris and zack continue to exist in the lifestream (and in cloud's memory/dreams), simple as that. if you are a christian and/or believe that people have a soul and there is such thing as heaven, think of it that way.
as for plot holes in the game - some things in the game are deliberately left ambiguous (i.e whether cloud ever loved aeris), many things are left for you to work out yourself and ARE NOT spelled out to you in black and white, some things can only be seen by backtracking or exploring every nook and cranny. that and vincent is by far the coolest character in the whole series.
hater: Final fantasy VII: Advent Children was lame as, you have to be a silly little final fantasy 7 sephiroth loving fanboy to actually enjoy this movie because us TRUE final fantasy fans are too busy hating fanboys to appreciate the amazing CGI, the very well coreographed fight scenes and some of the good voice acting in this film.
fanboy: be fair tho, vincent is cool
fanboy: be fair tho, vincent is cool
by the wangster May 7, 2006
An awsome movie that is soon to hit america. It is the sequal to what happened two years later after the infamous and unforgettable Final Fantasy VII.
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People who only come here to put a lousy definition to tell how lousy the game is should go fuck bush
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People who only come here to put a lousy definition to tell how lousy the game is should go fuck bush
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there i go again mixing george w bush with idiots. wait... whats the diffeance?
George: *singing* If only i had a braaaaaiiinn....!
George: *singing* If only i had a braaaaaiiinn....!
by boob January 21, 2005
a sequel to the Final Fantasy VII game, movie style. destined to be a kick arse movie just by seeing trailers.
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is gonna be a sweet movie! I'm already geeking out about it!! WOOT!
by Juliet December 20, 2004
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is one of the greatest movies ever. 2years after Sepiroth is killed, Kadaj's gang come looking for the Geostigma(After affect of Sepiroth) Children And Jenova's head, What Actually happens when Kadaj comes in touch with the head, Is not Jenova's Reunion... IT IS SEPIROTHS!
by Sebastian Lillback September 21, 2005