toymi69's definitions
A traditional dark beer style originating from London.Its popularity amongst dock porters is believed to have led its name.The now much more widely known stout is a type of porter.
by toymi69 May 30, 2008

ref below;stout is a class of porter, it came about due to the introduction of other grains than barley being used in addition, due to a tax on malted barley.It has become associated with Ireland laterly due to its popularity there, although it was originaly a London style. Porter as a name came about because of the popularity of the beer with the dock porters.Stout because the other grains introduced gave the beer a fuller or stouter texture rather than flavour.The guiness conection at best relates to their being and early importer/exporter and modern marketing!
by toymi69 May 29, 2008

Ref below, not sure what hunter gathering has to do with this but otherwise fairy accurate, though forgetting the main uk types of bitter,best bitter and the now saddly not so common though slowly reappearing, thankfuly, mild, the newer versions of which are often called dark to avoid conotations with flat caps.Try one you will be surprised!Good lagers are availabe also but they do not come from the major international keg factorys!
by toymi69 May 29, 2008

by toymi69 May 30, 2008

ref below;about accurate on the abv, but not generally pale, although the new trend for "summer beers" tends to be going that way. Traditional pale ales are different as they tend to be less bitter or strong and are so a different category.IPA:India Pale Ale is again different as it is hoppier and generally paler but in its proper form much stronger, above 6%abv.There is a modern trend to label light hoppy beers as IPA,this is wrong they are pale ales. Duchars is a prime example it is a nice beer but at3.6 definatly not an IPA.
by toymi69 May 29, 2008
