Strawman Arguments (I call them Stickman Arguments, sometimes) are arguments in which someone who you are debating takes your points and twists them to get ground on you in order to form a refutation in which they are correct.
Person A: *Signs on to start a topic saying:* For anyone out there who questions God because God doesn't always answer your prayers, the truth is: God doesn't help us because we have free will.
Person B: That's an unsound argument because it has no ground to stand on and it is overused. It's like saying, "What if I'm right and you're wrong and you go to Hell?" to an atheist.
Person A: We're not talking about Hell, therefore your refutation has no grounds.
Person B: Please take your strawman arguments somewhere else
Person A: You're going to burn in Hell for not believing in God!
Person A signs off.
Person B facepalms.
Person B: That's an unsound argument because it has no ground to stand on and it is overused. It's like saying, "What if I'm right and you're wrong and you go to Hell?" to an atheist.
Person A: We're not talking about Hell, therefore your refutation has no grounds.
Person B: Please take your strawman arguments somewhere else
Person A: You're going to burn in Hell for not believing in God!
Person A signs off.
Person B facepalms.
by Life's Outcast Of Death April 4, 2009
A: Trump has repeatedly demonstrated racially insensitive behavior
B: "Everyone I disagree with is Hitler."
A: That is a recursive strawman.
B: "Everyone I disagree with is Hitler."
A: That is a recursive strawman.
by ovusar December 8, 2020
What 99% of the definitions and examples on Urban Dictionary articles that have even the smallest relationship with religion and/or politics.
Strawman Fallacy:
From UD's humanist entry: "Ha, you believe in God? We humanists are smarter than you because we think we are just going to rot in a hole in the ground and that the universe just appeared on it's own one day."
"And that is smart because...?"
"Uh... gay pride?"
"God have mercy on these morons..."
Strawman Fallacy: From UD's entry on liberal: 2. "I hate liberals. Stupid pinko liberals are ruining America."
"Yeah, damn liberals and their...their...liberty. Psht, this is America, we don't need liberty. God bless America."
"Hey, wait..."
From UD's humanist entry: "Ha, you believe in God? We humanists are smarter than you because we think we are just going to rot in a hole in the ground and that the universe just appeared on it's own one day."
"And that is smart because...?"
"Uh... gay pride?"
"God have mercy on these morons..."
Strawman Fallacy: From UD's entry on liberal: 2. "I hate liberals. Stupid pinko liberals are ruining America."
"Yeah, damn liberals and their...their...liberty. Psht, this is America, we don't need liberty. God bless America."
"Hey, wait..."
by Flambe December 18, 2009
“Why don’t Republicans want kids to know how to not be racist?”
"A Strawman Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist"
"A Strawman Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist"
by FTJM October 21, 2022
Person 1: I'm a (insert ideology here)
Person 2: That means that you hate black people and eat babies!
Person 1: What? I dont mean that, I just think that illegal immigrants are bad.
Person 2: Look guys, he's a racist transphobe who thinks that women shouldn't have rights!
Person 3: Im a (insert ideology here) and I think that they should add compartments in landing gear to crush immigrants trying to leave their countries for a better life.
Person 4: Hey! Thats racist!
Person 3: OMG STRAWMAN!!!!
(rewind time)
Person 4: Hey! That's racist!
Person 3: Welp, guess you support terrorism. Betchu cheered when Al-Qaeda did 9/11?
Person 4: What the fuck?
Person 3: Fucking Commies trying to bring down America. Fucking hate them.
Person 2: That means that you hate black people and eat babies!
Person 1: What? I dont mean that, I just think that illegal immigrants are bad.
Person 2: Look guys, he's a racist transphobe who thinks that women shouldn't have rights!
Person 3: Im a (insert ideology here) and I think that they should add compartments in landing gear to crush immigrants trying to leave their countries for a better life.
Person 4: Hey! Thats racist!
Person 3: OMG STRAWMAN!!!!
(rewind time)
Person 4: Hey! That's racist!
Person 3: Welp, guess you support terrorism. Betchu cheered when Al-Qaeda did 9/11?
Person 4: What the fuck?
Person 3: Fucking Commies trying to bring down America. Fucking hate them.
by buddy retard July 31, 2021
That isn't my claim though is it? My claim a that you're a women-worshipping fat fucking hairy dungeon gnome who's resigned himself to inferiority so readily that even the prospect that women aren't walking, sentient fucking virtue detectors is an unacceptable affront to the life to which you've resigned yourself. No amount of effort is going to make you better than me and any more effort than I currently expend would make ME Andrew Tate. And you fucking hate him too. Fuck all the women. Use the fact that you're able to fuck all of the women... To exploit the women... BY exploiting the incels. They deserve it for giving him their money. But you don't want to have to be inferior to HIM while simultaneously DESPERATELY DEMANDING I accept equality or even inferiority to a fucking retard. So what do you do? Whip out your no true scottsman fallacy 'You shouldn't want to be like Andrew tate. You should want to be like ME! They guy who relishes at the prospect of being inferior to a retard.' So you can roll around with all of the other undesirables and lie to yourself. 'At least I don't have to be worse than Hym! Even if I was I'd just make some shit up like I do with Tate.' Your only redeeming quality some amorphous, unqualifiable, contribution that amounts to little more than laundering you receive AS CHARITY, TO A DIFFERENT CHARITY. And even if you COULD quantify it, and you COULD make it more concrete, it would STILL add up to LESS than HIS contribution.
Hym "That's a strawman. And, BEYOND that, HIS contribution is a peripheral element of MY FUCKING CONTRIBUTION. It's Record of Ragnarok. You'd rather die than have humanity be saved by Jack the Ripper. Not that I am at all like Jack the ripper but I'm sure you get the point. It's pathetic. It so important for you to reinforce the notion that those who are unsuccessful with women are deserve the hate they get. 'Everyone I hate deserves the hate they receive and I'm the self-appointed arbiter of who people are not allowed to hate.' Women don't ever deserve the hate they receive. Incels do. Why? 'Because women validate me sometimes and if it doesn't make me special I don't have anyone to be better than.' No matter how meager or remedial your existence, you entire life is just one long sigh of relief that you don't have to be the piss-freak. And bulding relationships doesn't translate to success with women. Potential success with women is just the golden carrot hung out to motivate the unclean to work hard and be friendly to women. Perpetual false hope for some offered by a flippant and indifferent God."
by Hym Iam September 24, 2023
No. You're saying that about me because I said it about the retard. But the retard has been anointed by a priestess and is, therefore, one of the chosen and I am not. But 2 year olds don't make identity claims and if they did you would humor them. What they DO is throw temper tantrums over trivial things (like not being about to eat cereal for every meal and cry and are legally incompetent. Which is what the retard does and is. But you don't care about that. You're not on his side your against mine. Because you're ThE oPpOsItE oF aN aNtINaTaLiSt. The truth of my proposition is irrelevant to you because you refuse to cede to me an identity that is better than molested cripple. And the bitch that fucked the 13 year old did it voluntarily and is not compelling him to pay child support. I mean it takes (on average) 70 attempts so conceive. How many times did she fuck a child and FOR WHAT REASON? Doesn't matter that it was voluntary. Does it? She was wrong to do it and deserves to be punished. It seems like a sub-optimal relationship. Seems like the optimal relationship between a man and a woman is one where neither of them are legally incompetent.
Hym "There is also this insistence that poor people 'caring more' about climate change somehow affects climate change. But I don't see how. If the 'global poor' had as much money as I do (which is not a lot) they would likely have just as little control over climate change as I do. But no you're right. People are just 'envious of your success and ambition'... And your insulation from failure through government programs, subsidies, or bailouts or rich parents... And peoples willingness to lie to protect you or hold water for you... And the fact that you don't necessarily need to be all that competent or honest to accrue a radically disproportionate amount of success. Success that you were only able to accrue by outsourcing the logistics (Which is what I did and I wrote the HIGHEST GROSSING R RATED MOVIE OF ALL TIME! HIGHER THAN DEADPOOL!) to people whose quality of life for which you abdicate responsibility in spite of the direct causal link between their quality of life and the conditions of your business and the wage they are paid... You're right! It can't possibly be that your success is undeserved and comes to the detriment of the broader community the you purport to care so much about. What you've done here is latch on to 2 strawman arguments and then deduce propositions from there. What happened to the Steelman? Oh, right, you just pull shut out of your ass and feed it to you followers. You don't need to be consistent."
by Hym Iam March 22, 2023