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Goth rock is a sub-genre of post punk music which originated in the UK in the late 70s (specifically 1979).

The first goth song is said to be "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by Bauhaus because even though the song was supposed to be written tongue-in-cheek, the band performed it with naive seriousness and the audience understood it with seriousness.

Goth rock characteristics include a 4 / 4 post punk beat, a drum machine, baritone vocals (common in men, like Peter Murphy of Bauhaus and Andrew Eldritch of The Sisters of Mercy), flanging guitar used for atmosphere and a prominent bassline. Some goth bands use characteristics of tribal music in their work, too (see: Southern Death Cult and Stairs - Uncertain Journey by Christian Death).

Contrary to belief, goth has not "evolved" and throughout the decades, the sound has relatively stayed the same. However, other dark or spooky genres and bands have cropped up throughout those decades which commonly get called "goth". This is false as goth only specifically refers to bands within that genre, not any band that uses a "dark" image or "spooky" lyrical themes.

Bands like Marilyn Manson and EBM bands like God Module are commonly mistaken for "Goth" when they're part of different genres.

The sound for all three of these groups are completely different, therefore could not be considered to be part of the same genre.
It is common for a goth to listen to goth rock, darkwave, deathrock and post punk but they can enjoy genres like metal (symphonic and Gothic in particular), industrial, EBM and synth pop too, just as long as they realise that the latter list are not goth genres.
by DeadDeathrocker April 18, 2017
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Someone who is black and into actual emo music and it's sub-genres (emotive hardcore, hardcore punk, skramz and maybe indie or alternative like Sunny Day Real Estate and The Promise Ring). These people most likely know what they're talking about and won't label themselves "emo" because it's just a genre of music (and an insult when the term originally came about).

Most people think "emos" or what is actually emo pop punk (people who listen to emo pop punk / alternative rock / pop punk bands) like early My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco are all privileged white kids and that seems to be the case, but you can have different races being apart of the subculture / sub-genre as well. It's just more popular in Western countries because that's where the genres originated.
Person 1: Look at her!

Person 2: Yeah, she's a black emo. They're rare, but they're out there.

Person 1: I wonder if she likes Dag Nasty.

Person 2: Probably not, probably one of those pop punk kids opposed to someone who likes emotive hardcore.
by DeadDeathrocker March 18, 2017
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A subculture and music genre which originated out of the British post-punk scene in the late 70s / early 80s with bands like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees and then later, The Sisters of Mercy.

Goth is a music based subculture and while there are other aspects and customs to what makes the subculture, the most important is listening to and supporting the music in your scene (going to shows, buying merch and albums). This, of course, does not mean you CAN'T listen to other bands and artists outside the goth genre. Goth genres include goth rock, post punk, darkwave and deathrock.

Goth fashion comes from the Batcave (infamous night club where the subculture was born) and the musicians who wore this type of fashion. (See: Siouxsie Sioux's eye make up, Patricia Morrisons long black hair and red nails and Jonny Slut's deathhawk.) It's commonly worn by members of the goth subculture because the fans tried dress similarly, but never the same. This is the same as any fans dressing like their idols, and is where the element of DIY came into the scene.

The American version of goth is "deathrock" which is a spooky and atmospheric sub-genre of punk rock.
A goth is most likely into Bauhaus and Siouxsie and the Banshees but not all goth is from the 80s, you can get some good goth bands from the 1990s and 2010s too.
by DeadDeathrocker April 17, 2017
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This is what emo really stands for, it is short for emotive hardcore. A subgenre of hardcore Punk that formed in Washington in 1985, which also has it's roots in indie rock. In 1984 a band called Minor Threats idea, a Minor Threat fan called Guy Picciotto formed a band called Rites of Spring. This turned out to be the first emo band ever, even though they decline the subgenre. Later on other bands like Embrace and Moss Icon joined in and formed a music subgenre called emotive hardcore.

Later on a second wave of emo hit Washington. Bands like Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is The Reason were included. They also decline that they're emo.

Some other real emo bands are

- Indian Summer
- Gray Matter
- I Hate Myself
- The Pine
- Braid
Emo 1: Did you go to Sunny Day Real Estate's concert last night?

Emo 2: Yeah, they were amazing. They are a perfect example of a real second wave emotive hardcore band.
by DeadDeathrocker April 21, 2012
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A subgenre of emotive hardcore and indie rock that formed in the 90's. Screamo isn't mainstream and you will not hear any screamo bands played on the TV or radio.

Some real screamo bands are Orchid, Pg.99, Circle Takes The Sqaure, City of a Caterpillar, Piano Come The Teeth, Saetia, Anomie, Portraits of Past, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, Indian Summer and The Saddest Landscape.

Screamo is often a term used for bands like Bring Me The Horizon, Asking Alexandria, Pierce The Veil, Escape The Fate, Falling In Reverse, Sleeping With Sirens or any other band that has used the technique in their songs. Anybody who says these bands are screamo is wrong, they are post-hardcore or metalcore.

They're part of the metal mainstream.
Screamo fan 1: Did you listen to Pg.99's new album?

Screamo fan 2: Yeah, they're amazing. Such meaningful lyrics.
by DeadDeathrocker April 21, 2012
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