Most intelligent people know that "Upstate New York" has traditionally been the land north of Albany. Just because something is "up" from NYC, doesn't make it part of "Upstate New York". You might be going "upstate" or "up the state" but you will never be in "Upstate New York" while visiting Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, White Plains, etc.

And think about this - what do you think people in Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, etc say when they are visiting Lake George, for example. "Oh we're going to Up-Upstate New York" ???? Of course not! That's because Rhinebeck/Poughkeepsie/White Plains people do NOT LIVE IN UPSTATE NEW YORK!

Think rationally --- and read a textbook. Maybe you'll learn something about the history of New York (and the geography).
Matt: Where are you from?
Peter: Kingston
Matt: Ohhhhhh Upstate New York
Peter: *smacks Matt on head*
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Whatever is north of the Capital District (Albany, Rensselaer, Schenectady). Looking at a county map of New York State would verify that.
Whoever said that Long Island was upstate has to be the biggest retard ever. Either that, or he never looked at a map of New York State before in his life.
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The vast area encompassing New York State north of Westchester county. A varied mosaic of farmland, woodland, picturesque rolling hills, and towns and cities ranging from the charming to the decrepit. Generally more provincial and less cosmpolitan than its densely urban New York City counterpart, its citizenry is more approachable and friendly albeit less refined and cultured than the pretentious yuppies of New York and Long Island. Some of its urban centers are buoyed economically and culturally by the influence of many universities and (in the case of the capital region) government administration centers; however most of its large cities are mired in varying states of urban decay and have been hemorrhaging population since the 1950s due to a steady loss of jobs and a subsequent increase in crime. Utica, Rochester, and Newburgh are particularly miserable places to set foot in. Its more rural areas, which feature breathtaking landscapes, are lovely and bucolic albeit mind-numbingly boring to actually live in.

In summation, upstate New York is too large and varied an area to define succinctly. As a native resident of New York City who went to college upstate I can both laud it for being physically beautiful and its natives for being candid, frank, and hospitable while noting that I would never want to live there permanently as life there can grow trite, repetitive, cold as hell, and insufferably boring after a while and the locals' lack of sophistication and city-esque hustle, while charming at first, can also eventually grow unflattering. Not that I'd want them to change. Their lack of tact and culture is offset by their good character and sincerity, something too many city residents and Long Islanders sorely do not have. Both Upstate and Downstate need each other, more or less. It's a yin-yang thing.
New Yorker 1: I'm going upstate for the summer.
New Yorker 2: You'll love it in Upstate New York for the first few weeks. It's nice to get away from the yuppie assholes down here for a while. Eventually, though, you'll need to come back to civilization.
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Upstate New York, contrary to the belief of Long Islanders, does not begin just north of the city. NYC suburbs include Rockland, Orange, Westchester, Putnam, and Lower Dutchess counties - including Fairfield County, CT. "Upstate" begins north of those places, when there is no longer Metro-North train service to Grand Central Station.

Poughkeepsie is NOT part of upstate New York. However, slightly north of Poughkeepsie (i.e., Rhinebeck) is where "upstate" actually begins. On the flip side of the Hudson, Newburgh is not upstate. Newburgh is only an hour and a half from the city. Please don't call Newburgh upstate. West of the Hudson, upstate begins in Ulster county.
"I'm sorry, but Scarsdale is NOT upstate New York."

Person from Dutchess meets person from Long Island:
D: "Where are you from?"
LI: "Lawn-Guy-Lind. You?"
D: "Dutchess County...like, Poughkeepsie."
LI: "...Is that upstate? What's it like in upstate NY?"
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Person from Dutchess meets person from Renssalaer:
D: "Where are you from?"
R: "Albany. Well Renssalaer, but no one knows where that is....so Albany."
D: "Oh...I'm from Poughkeepsie."
R: "Is it warm there?"
D: "Uh..."
R: "You know upstate starts NORTH of the Hudson, right?"
D: *confused*
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upstate new york does not refer to the proximity of new york city; its the entire state in general. upstate is anything north of westchester county.

The 5 bouroughs, nassau, suffolk and weschester are downstate.

the only debate is westchester, not because of the social/economical connections with the city, its just that its north of the bronx. But most people say that it is downstate.

if you think long island is upstate then you are obviously from one of the citys bad schools or from any upstate school (north of weschester). Learn your geography! This isnt that hard! Not one person I have ever met has even knew that this was a "debate"(which its not).
Someone from long island/New York City: "Im going upstate this weekend"

Friend: "your going north of westchester? watch out for the tractors!
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-The northern part of New York north of Albany and in the Hudson River area. Just saying now, Buffalo, Syracuse and Rochester are not upstate. They are in Central-Western New York.

-NOT WESTCHESTER, AND DEFINITELY NOT LONG ISLAND!
And just to clear this up, not all Upstaters are good-for-nothing hicks. Sure, some are, but everywhere has hicks and wierdos. The only reason that a lot of upstaters don't have jobs is because all the jobs left in the 50's, making New York (the state, idiot out-of-staters) the poorest state per capita.

-Upstate is not a crime-ridden slum as several cities, like Port Jervis have displayed to us. People here have manners and common sense.

-A LOT prettier than the city, which is more crime infested and poorer (per capita).
OK, this damn thing keeps erasing my example and telling me to say Upstate New York, even though I DID so now i just said it.
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In short, a terrible place. Should be avoided at all costs.

If you ever end up moving to Upstate New York, you will never be able to escape it.

The towns are all small, boring and cold and the cities are nothing to write home about either.

However something about Upstate New York, particularly EXTREME Upstate New York will pull you back in should you ever try to leave for a prolonged period of time.
My parents, like many other unfortunate people who grew up in Upstate New York, actually left and CAME BACK.

Upstate New York will forever be in the shadow of The City, and should you move there you will be invalidated as a person entirely.
If you ever happen to travel, and you tell someone you are from New York you will be forced to endure horrid responses like "OMGZ IZ IT NICE IN DA CITY?" or "D00D I WAz iN NYC LaSt WeEk, itz dA BoMb!!123" even if you try to take preventitive measures such as saying "New York STATE," "UPSTATE New York," or even "RURAL NEW YORK YOU MOTHERFUCKER."

Believe it or not, there are actually places even farther north than Buffalo or Albany.

I personally live within walking distance of the Canadian border.

I would rather just hop across and join the Canadians than deal with another day of being seen as a hideous appendage to The City.

My dream is to get the fuck out as soon as I can, move to another state and NEVER TELL ANYONE WHERE I'M ORIGINALLY FROM.
Unfortunately that will be nearly impossible because SUPRISE, on top of being boring, cold, and ignored, Extreme Upstate New York is also DIRT POOR.
This forces its unfortunate inhabitants to attend crappy local colleges and then later either work at Clinton Correctional Facilities or live IN Clinton Correctional Facilities.

This is partly due to the inevitable drug and alcohol problems these people develop to cope with the pain of living in America's own little third-world country.
Example One:

Poor, unfortunate soul: I grew up in Upstate New York, and saved up all my money from the time I was a kid so someday I could get the fuck out. Unfortunately after leaving and entering the rest of the world I devoloped a slew of mental illnesses because I was never properly trained to live in society. I moved back Upstate.

Example Two:
Kid: Woah, mom, your dashboard says it's -20 degrees outside.
Mom: Yes dear, that's because we're driving through Upstate New York. When we get into Canada, it'll still be this cold, but at least I'll be able to smoke in public.

Example Three:
STUPID Girl on plane: So where are you from?
UNFORTUNATE Guy on plane: UPSTATE RURAL New York STATE.
STUPID Girl on plane: Wow, that's so cool. Can you see the Statue of Liberty from your apartment, or is the Empire State Building blocking your view?

Example Four:
Man: I was going to get out of this place as soon as I could, but things didn't work out, I had to stay in the area for college. Now I work at Clinton Correctional Facilities.

Woman from Anywhere but Upstate, USA: OMG did you meet Tupac?!?

Example Five:

Girl on internet: I live in Massena.
Boy on internet in NYC: Is that like near Ethiopia?
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