Tiger Schulmann's now known as TSMMA (mixed martial arts) is probably the best place you can learn self defense, and learn how to REALLY fight. For the deffinition above me, apparently you heard wrong. Ever notice at fights such as Newbreed Fighters, Golden Gloves, and combat at the capitale, TSMMA ALWAYS wins. And damn if you're wearing a tsmma shirt, you must walk around damn proud. Sure, we might have cheezy commercials, well get over it cause all the things you do in life doesn't add up to someone's life who does TSMMA. And MMA is different from other schools belts, in tae kwan doe or w.e its spelled, they have jr. black belts, and regular black belts, at TSMMa its different ok? Trust me, go onto the site, check out the fighting videos, im in the best shape of my life right now because of it, and im also a great fighter too. If you still think it's stupid, that's your problem, but don't put down one of the best orginizations ive ever seen.
Many friends of mine have gotten into the best shape of their lives doing tiger schulmann's, including me.