Goths aren't always:
-Dressed in black
-Shoppers at Hot Topic
Foamy-"Goth is not a fashion statement just like punk."
Person 2-"No that kid is emo, Goths can't just go buy a couple things at Hot Topic and be a Goth."
Person 1-"Oh yeah, well that make sense."
Writers: Edgar Allen Poe, Anne Rice
History: Goth can be traced back to victorian ages. But it was launched in the UK by punk bands like Siouxsie Sioux who began wearing bondage clothing and topics of victorian age and gothic literature and art and more intelligent thoughts.
Goth Music: Music including dark atmospheres.
Examples include and genres:
Post Punk: Siouxsie Sioux, The Cult
Goth Rock: Clan of Xymox, London After Midnight, The Cure, Bauhaus
Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, Frank the Baptist, Alien Sex Fiend
Dark Cabaret: Voltaire, Emilie Autumn
Gothtronic: Anders Manga, Gary Numan, Blutengel
Genre's and bands that aren't goth.
Marilyn Manson, AFI, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, KoRn, Type O negative, HIM.
Any form of metal music
Gothic metal, and death metal, are not goth.
Most likely if its mainstream, its not goth.
There are many kinds of gothic fashion. But the basic things are boots, mostly dark attire, pale skin, hair that isn't brown. The "do it yourself" is a heavily emphasized part of the culture. Check gothic tribes for more detail.
General Pieces: Fishnet, Black nail varnish, colored hair, dark eyeliner, leather, metal (steel), buckles, bondage pants, hobble skirts, dress shirts, ties, top hats, red lipstick, black lipstick, dress shoes, combat boots.
Truths and False.
From the point of goth creation, its been morphed many times. Goth has been hit by many different accusations such as violance and satanic rituals.
Myth: Goths are violent
Truth: Its wrong to accuse a whole group based on one person's action, so its a maybe. But goth does not support violence.
Myth: Hot topic is goth
Truth: No, hot topic is a coporation. Goth originates from punk, and punk has emphasized on anti-corporation/government. In short terms, hot topic markets for mass appeal and attention, so no its not.
Myth: Goths are satanic.
Truth: Although many arts can depict vampires and death, even Satanist do not stand for evil or harm to others. Some goths could be satanic, but goth has no real links between satanism. Most goths are secular, but some are religious.
Myth: Goths have tattoos and piercings from head to toe.
Truth: Some have them, some don't.
Myth: Goths are sad
Truth: Not all of them, sure goth emphasizes the darker things in life, but not all of them are sad people, normal people can be sad, sadness is an emotion, emotions make you human. And goths are human.
Myth: Goth is nothing but a clique.
Truth: This is apart of the "morphing and warping". Goth was never centered around excluding others or trying to be different. Like many counter-cultures, its about being yourself and doing what you like, yet has similar interest and beliefs. Being goth isn't pidgeon holing yourself. Pidgeon holing is when you take someone's belief and claim it as your own.
In the mainstream
Even though goth isn't mainstream, there are some mainstream things that are gothic.
Movies: The Crow, Queen of the Damned, Interview with a Vampire
Books: The Vampire Chronicles
Music: The Cure
Although there are no "rules" in goth that someone must follow, there are a particular scene.
Victorian Goth AKA Romantigoth: Goths with a touch of victorian age in their life such as dress shirts, capes, cloaks.
Interest: Renaissance, Medieval age, Paganism, Occult,
Mallgoth: Probably the biggest uproot in the mainstream, but not goth even though mostly judged as goth. Without judgment on the individuals personality, a mallgoth is someone who has no knowledge of goth history, and labels bands like Marilyn Manson and Slipknot as goth, and shops at hot topic. Usually in the teen era.
Interest: Hot topic, metal, alternative rock,
Cyber Goth AKA Rivethead: A mix between cyber culture with goth elements and appearence. Usually baggy pants and neon with cyber like hair. Has more of an interest in EBM and Industrial Bands.
Interest: Dancing, cyber culture, technology
Fetish Goth: A goth with an interest in bongage and takes BDSM fashion and lifestyle.
Interest: Bondage, PVC, fetish material.
Deathrocker: A goth with an interest in deathrock, horror punk and psychobilly music. Fashion wise fishnet and torn dark clothing with combat boots.
Interest: Deathrock, Psychobilly, DIY fashion.
Elder Goth: A goth who has been around since goth creation or a goth over 40.
Vampire Goth: I'M A VAMPIRE!!! LOL
Goth-Related Terms and People
The Batcave: A club in England where goths have met since its creation
Columbine: A violent shooting that presented the first so called "goth violence" (NOTE: shooters were not goths)
Rozz Williams: The frontman of Christian Death, who founded american goth, and founded the Deathrock genre.
Siouxsie Sioux: The godmother of Goth, one of the first post-punk/goth bands that influenced bands later on.
Dinah Cancer: The frontwoman of 45 Grave, one of the first deathrock bands. "The Queen of Deathrock"
Bela Lugosi: Not a goth, but played and had a cult following in his horror movies, even after death.
Personality: There is no "rule" of personality, but most goths are open minded, witty, anti-prejudice, deep, quiet and artistic.
Don't judge a group based on one person's action, were all different, but similar sometimes.
Goth is a culture that emphasizes the darker, deeper and romantic sides of life that strays away from the mainstream and pays attention to individuality.
Goth: I'm doing good.
Person: Lets have fun
Goth: Ok! :]
A) The original Goths were an ancient East Germanic Scandinavia tribe. The Goths eventually split into two groups after migrating towards the Baltic Sea: The Visigoths and The Ostrogoths.
Though at one point in time the term Goth was used to describe barbarians (as that is what The Visigoths were famous for) that term is no longer used. Another import fact; neither the Visigoths or the Ostrogoths had their own religion, they were Germanic paganism and Arianism. Implication: Goth is not a religion.
B) Goth was also an old architectural style which began in the 12th century. (An example of this style is St. Denis Abbey or Westminster Abbey)
C) Goth can also used to describe literature. Gothic literature was dark romantic dating back to the 1700's. Two of the possibly most notable authors from the time were Edgar Allen Poe, and Mary Shelley.
D) The most common usage of the word Goth however is the description of a fan of Goth Rock and a member of the subculture. The subculture began primarily with the release of Bela Lugosi's Dead by Bauhaus though some beg to differ and say bands such as Joy Division and The Mission outdate Bauhaus. To belong to the gothic subculture appreciation of the music is essential, while there is more to the subculture than just the music, many people fail to realize that someone fashion choice or attitude does not necessarily make them Goth.
Goth! architecture is so beautiful.
I was reading The Fall of the House of Usher the other day, man was that Goth.
Yesterday I ran into my friend, sometimes she's such a pretentious Goth.
Most goths tend to be thoughtful and interesting. They tend to define themselves as different with no interest in the mainstream, and also enjoy the heavier side of music.
Many of the so called "goths" in here have polluted this site with their slanted views and thoughts.
They believe that people who listen to Nu Metal are posers. This is untrue.
The fact that they scream "faggoth" at people who enjoy their own types of music are more poser-like than the accused.
Goth is more of a state of mind, a state of thought. Goths will support what they want to support, and listen what they want to listen to. Their values go deeper than those of people in the mainstream, and they generally are very sociable.
True goths have their own taste and way of life. The so called "true goths" bash them because they enjoy music that they dont like.
There is really no such thing as a goth poser. All poser images are based on opinion only, and are very biased.
There are many types of goths, with many different outlooks on life. Some are depressed, some are happy, but most are very cerebral and deep people.
Goths enjoy heavy music in general, such as death or black metal. Some lighter genres are permitted, and should even be celebrated, because they have their own taste.
Goths should never shape their taste to the mainstream just because other people do, and they are the ones who are true posers. You will be able to spot them very quickly.
Some goths may support gay rights, some may not, but among the goth circles, opinions are welcomed. The point of being goth is having indiviuality.
Poser goth: Dude, you like Slipknot!?!? youre a fucking poser!!!
These people ARE NOT goth: Marylin Manson, Limp Bizkit, ICP (Who in heck thought ICP was goth? Their just, um, Mentally Retarded)and no, My Chemical Romance is not a goth band.