I’m not sure why this topic seems so controversial. In fact it probably really isn’t, it’s only the bitter, self righteous, intolerant Greeks that insist on living in the past. What do they insist on? Well, they insist that the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) is in reality Greek. The definition of what is “Greek” is entirely subjective of course, but no matter let’s overlook that blatant idiosyncrasy for now.
Regardless of the fallacies in their own argument, there is no substantiation behind it. For one, they base their theory on the lineage of Alexander the Great. This is preposterous, for at the time his father was Phillip, King of Macedonia (not of Greece, mind you), and his mother was a Greek whore that his father took for himself. Furthermore, Alexander was crowned as King of Macedonia, at which point he promptly invaded and took over Greece. Now then, why would someone invade their own country? Precisely, they wouldn’t. Thus, argument 1 is negated: Alexander the Great was Macedonian. Second, the theory that he spread “the Greek culture” is more ridiculous than the first argument. There is about as much a distinct “Greek culture” as there is a distinct “Columbian culture” or a “Zimbabwean culture”. It was a Mediterranean way of life that everyone in the region enjoyed, not just the self righteous Greeks, who persistently call the lifestyle “Greek”. It was representative of all the Balkans, and by that token Alexander the Great did not spread “Greek culture”, but rather Mediterranean culture.
Lastly, and most obtuse, is the argument that the land that FYROM occupies is really part of Greece. Well, what evidence is there for that argument? If it should be a part of Greece, then it most certainly would be. Land is acquired by working for it, not by complaining to the world community that some land should be yours. There is no divine mandate that dictates what lands belong to who. Did the lands in present day France always belong to the French? Or, did the lands of England always belong to British? Or even the lands of Germany, always to the Germans? No, of course not! There were disputes over those lands, and most often blood was spilt. They all belonged to a myriad of different tribes before any stability came about. Sorry Greeks, but this is a harsh world; Macedonia exists because, partially, your weakness and inability to control your own lands. Survival of the fittest as they call it; bitch and moan all you like but unless the hand of God comes down and grants Macedonia to Greece on a silver platter, the lands of Macedonia will forever more remain sovereign.
Now, to the man who insulted the people of Macedonian descent of being “pathetic slav retards”, I would like he himself to retort with at least half a sound of an argument as that which you see right here. Now, I am not often very outspoken, but I simply cannot stand to see such ignorance being blabbed about. There is a very fine line gents, between nationalism and bigotry. I trust you remember that. So, next time you would like to express your dogmatic complaints please follow some logical, coherent conventions if you please.
King of Macedonia + Greek Bitch= Macedonian Prince
A country Tito made up to piss off Greeks and Bulgarians.
Tito: You know what would really piss off those fuckers? If I made a country called Macedonia.
Stalin: LOL, that's awesome!
Beautiful and ancient land, with friendly people. Come and visit it.
I have been in Macedonia last year, and i am coming again in this beautiful land for sure.
A geographical region in the north of Greece. It includes cities like Serres, Katerini and Thessaloniki
. Beautiful landscape, homeland of Alexander the Great( the real one, not a slavic barbarian..)
Macedonia became one of the stongest greek kingdoms and conquered the known world of that time.
The home of Alexander the Great, the man who spread Greek culture to the edges of the known world over 300 years before the birth of Christ.
The Birthplace of the Greek tribe of Macedonians, who fought with and against other Greek tribes such as Spartans and Athenians. The home to the first Greek leader to unify all the Greek City states to rule the known world. The home to over two million residents in Modern day Northern Greece, whilst also the home to a slavic race of people to the north in FYROM (The fomer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)who linguisticly and culturaly are very close to Bulgarain, if not the same. Not related to the ancient macedonians as the Slavs arived 1000 years after Alexander the Great which by then the poeple identified themselves as Byzantines and the term Macedonia had been lost for hundreds of years.
Hi I`m Macedonian born in Thessaloniki, well I am Peloponesian born in Kalamata and ethnicaly and culturaly we are both Greek.
(This is a copy/paste that i found on the net, it comes from an official letter from Governor George Ryan..Google the name Gyordan Veselinov if you dont believe me)
In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen on February 24th 1999, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM’s Amb. to Canada admitted “We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.” He also commented that, “There is some confusion about the identity of the people of our Country.” Also, he related; “In 1995 my Country agreed to remove the Greek symbol from its flag and modify the controversial phrases in the Constitution.” February 26 1992: FYROM’s President Gligorov at a interview reported by the Foreign Information Service, Daily Report, Eastern Europe, stated: “We are Slavs, who came to this region in the sixth century. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians.”
Who's trully Macedonian now, you pathetic slav retards?
Macedonia is Greek, as it has been for 2000 years, when Slavs didn't even exist as a race..
What so called Macedonians claim to be their land. It is actually northern Greece. For every city in Macedonia is Greek. Alexander the Great did not really come from this country but from Greece. The Ancient Macedonian flag use to be an Ancient Greek symbol which represents the 12 Greek Gods and Goddesses. This symbol had to be changed three times from the controversy it caused. The Ancient Macedonians spoke GREEK!!! THE CITIES ARE GREEK! MACEDONIA IS GREECE!
Alexander the Great even quoted:
"Your ancestors came from Macedonia and the rest of Hellas (Greece) and did us great harm, Though we had done no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to you Asia, Which I took from you..."
This means that Alexander the Great was Greek. Leader of the Greeks.
Greek: Hey have you noticed that all our cities are named after Ancient Greek Names, The flag itself is Greek, Ancient Macedonians use to speak Greek too, and that Alexander the Great claimed he was leader of the Greeks?
Macedonian: So what does that mean?
Home of Macedonians, brave people who love good wine, good music and their fatherland. Home of Alexander the Great, the greatest Macedonian and world hero of all times. Home of Samuel, Gotze Delchev and many other heroes!
You have to love this country with its great and ancient culture!
Egej, Vardar i Pirin se vo Makedonija.