*Very long and detailed post, covered all facts of the modern goth sub-culture*
After the demise of the pioneering goths such as Bauhaus listeners, the social niche called "goth" has MANY different definitions and misconceptions used throughout different age groups, social standing, location, etc. The common misconceptions in the United States (could be similar in other countries, but seeing as I haven't lived anywhere else I can't comment for sure) about "goths" is that they dress in all black, sulk constantly, and only think about death, suicide, religion, and the cliché... vampires, these people are NOT goth. They are adolescent punks that think that if they act all depressed they'll get the attention they thrive on. True goths that are the way they are because it is their true personality and think about topics like death and the struggle that a vampire living among humans would experience if they existed in modern times because they instill deep thought. Discussing topics like this are more than a way to pass the time, they're a way for many modern goths to think deeply and candidly about where they stand in the world, and if they are being true to what they believe in without changing their unique personality for the sake of others. Most gothic people are quite intelligent, if not in a "school" sense then in a "philosophical" sense and though they may have a relatively dark sense of humor or media, it does mean that all goths obsess about the end of someone's time on this earth. When an individual spends a high percentage of their life thinking without distraction, death, religion, and afterlife is a major topic. *THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOTHS ARE SUICIDAL OR DEPRESSED* Many people think that someone who listens to satanic metal and wears pentagrams all over as accessories are gothic, while a goth may listen to black metal and other genres like it, listening to it does not make you goth; another misconception that leads many people to group together dozens of sub-cultures into "goth". Goths are most commonly very in touch with their emotions and aren't afraid to express them in whatever way they see fit. This differs from modern emo or hardcore metal culture because that is comprised of kids that think all they feel is pain and depression followed by a "true love" based upon hormone driven infatuation, a goth will acknowledge all emotion be it happiness, grief, or the very rare but very beautiful love with open arms. Just living their lives free of fear that they may be shunned among their peers for being an intellectual individual is what a true goth will seek in their life. There are constant stories of "goth" high-schoolers taking their own lives because of a dismal outlook that, "no one understands how they feel," because they're too caught up in the moment that they don't acknowledge that the grief will pass and many, many people before them went through the exact same issues. This isn't to disrespect people that have done this, if i knew every-single one of their names I would pay tribute to them regularly because many of them did in fact just need someone to really listen to them instead of just saying, "It's just teenage angst, you'll calm down soon enough," but know I'm divulging way off topic, this is simply to say that said people are most likely not a true goth and self-labelled themselves as such because that's what they thought goth was. Goths also do not have to wear all black clothes or clothing you don't see commonly to be part of the goth culture like corsets for women or tight fitting clothes for effeminate men; though many do, it is not what makes them goth. Many goths listen to all sorts of music (maybe even a couple pop songs with lyrics that are relevant to their lives at the end of a good day) and there are plenty of goths that will wear bright colors and dress in a way that is (relatively) unique to their personality. Many people don't recognize these people as "goth" because of stereotypes that they have grown up with. A true goth will have an open mind to new ideas, music, literature and is all for discussing them regularly with a select group of friends and acquaintances that they associate with not for any sense of belonging or popularity, but because they too have open minds to new ideas and don't judge people on their outer appearance. A popular defining trait of a true goth is that they do not suddenly assosciate with the "mall goths" that patrol the neighborhood shopping center dressed completely over the top as to grab attention; these are nothing but immature followers that think that the attention they get when people stare will dressing over the top will make them happy. A true goth will not fret over any popularity or social status and will never change themselves for the sake of being well-liked among their peers; again, this is not to say that goths are total loners, a true goth will enjoy close friends just as much as anyone, they just may have stricter stipulations when choosing to spend time with them. Final misconception I have time to soliloquize, goths are not freaks in any way shape or form, most goths are normal people that just take interest in non-mainstream media and culture, goths are not all establishment-hating anarchists. A true goth will most often refrain from judging someone based on appearance and the clique they assosciate, they have all experienced what its like to be judged by appearance and are not quick to shun someone just because they fall into a different social niche. Final moral to whoever read this entire post, if you aren't already a true goth or have a goth friend, try meeting one by ignoring their appearance and forming opinions about them based solely on your compatibility as friends or just casual acquaintances. I hope this cleared up any misconceptions about the modern goth sub-culture. I'm not saying goths are perfect, or strange, "wacky", angry, or freaks. I am writing this because of all the misunderstanding being thrown around and people getting these stereotyped, dismal impressions of modern gothic culture.
-Fifteen year old girl with scars on her wrists that only wears black every day=Poser
-Young man with an "interesting" but not necessarily over the top outfit and haircut of primarily black, white, and some vibrant colors such as blue and purple, and will most like be relatively clean cut (Men may look rather effeminate, which many can take as a positive)=From first glance, most likely a true to his heart modern goth!
by BefriendPersonality_NotAppearance February 03, 2008
A goth is a person who generally wears black clothing, and wears make-up regardless of gender.

A lot of goths listen to a range of music, not all necessarily even metal. (side note: I would like to point out that it is NOT SlipKnoT's fault they were included in this 'Nu-metal' idea, they are a heavy metal band, and that is that)

Anyway, most goths are intelligant. They do not start fights with Chavs, because they know there is no point at all.

Goths are not Satanists, a small amount of them may well be, but mostly they just LOOK intimidating, that's why Chav's tend to attack in packs of about 20, so there is no chance of Goths defending themselves, but I think if there was a 1 on 1, a Goth would win hands-down.

All goths have their own styles of clothing, all different in several ways, whereas all Chavs look the same, in their fake gold and fake burbery (if that is spelled right). Chavs also use the same old insults at goths, like 'Greeb''Greebo' etc..

Anyway, because I don't know what else to say, here is a list of metal bands than goths are likely to listen to:

13 Candles, 1349, 3 Inches Of Blood, 5000 BC, 9X Dead, Abigail's Mercy, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Amon Amarth, Angra, Antaia, Anthrax, Apparition, Arcane Theory, Arch Enemy, As I Lay Dying, At The Gates, Atura, Avenged Sevenfold, Black Sabbath, Black Label Society, Bleeding Through, Bile, Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Chaos Incarnated, Children Of Bodom, Chimaira, City In Ruins, Coal Chamber, Conquest Of Steel, Cradle Of Filth, Creed, Darkthrone, Daysend, Deathstars, Denied Faith, Destruction 412, DevilDriver, Dimmu Borgir, Dirty Little Child, Dissection, Disturbed, Dope, Dragonforce, Dream Evil, Drowning Pool, Drop Dead Evil, Dry Kill Logic, Enchained, Enlisted Menace, Ensiferum, Enslaved, Evanescence, Fear Factory, Fear My Thoughts, Finntroll, Flaw, God Forbid, Godsize, Godsmack, Graveworm, Habitual, Hammerfall, Hanzel und Gretyl, Hard8Eight, HIM, Holotype, Ill Nino, Immortal, In Flames, inTERRORGATE, Iron Maiden, Jimi Hendrix, Joe Satriani, Judas Priest, Kamelot, Killswitch Engage, Kittie, KoRn, Kreator, Lacuna Coil, Lamb Of God, Linkin Park, Lordi, Machine Head, Marilyn Manson, Mastodon, Megadeth, Megahurz, Meshuggah, Millencolin, Mother Earth, Motorhead, Mudvayne, Murderdolls, Mushroomhead, Napalm Death, Necrophagist, Nevermore, Nightwish, Nile, NIN, Nirvana, Obituary, Omnium Gatherum, One Minute Silence, Opeth, Orgy, Overlorde, Pantera, P.O.D, Primal Fear, Queen, Queensryche, Quiet Riot, Rage, Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, Rhapsody, Riot, Ripped Speed, Roadrunner United, Satyricon, Screams for Tina, Sepultura, Severed, Six Feet Under, Skindred, Slayer, Slaves on Dope, SlipKnoT, Smokin' Tequila, Sonata Arctica, Soulfly, Staind, Static-X, Spineshank, Status Quo, Steel Dragon, Steve Vai, Stone Sour, Symphony In Peril, System Of A Down, Sub Dub Micromachine, Terror Rain, The Misfits, Trivium, Turisas, Unleash The Fury, Vader,Van Halen, Vehemence, Venom, Viking Skull, Violent Work of Art, Vital Remains, Winter Solstice, Within Temptation
Chav:"There's a greeb', let's go beat the crap outta him for no apparent reason"
Goth:"Well this isn't fair, there's like, 20 of them!"

Chav:"What would everyone like me to wear today?"
Goth:"What do I want to wear today?"
by Xeroth June 06, 2006
By reading all of the definitions of Goth below, I have concluded that, in addition to the traditional meanings of the word Gothic, the "goths" of today are people fixated on thinking they are somehow unique, admirable and special while ripping off a style popularized ~20 years ago. Kind of hard to be unique with seven BILLION people on the planet, but I bet yo mama thinks your black clothes, eye-liner and pierced brow r cute!
Didn't that Goth look die 20 years ago?
by Popular Girl February 16, 2006
How many goths seem to adhere to the mentality that they are the most intelligent, unique, intresting and creative poeople you will ever met(quoted with the spelling errors from a goth no less). That they are some how MORE unique and intelligent than the rest of us. Not only is this insulting, but blatantly false; testimony to this fact being all the poorly written definitions I read from "goths." Ironically, since most goths (and by "goths," I refer to their "culture" or "subculture" as they've defined it) seem to think that they are somehow more intelligent, interesting and/or creative than the rest of us, this alludes to another character trait entirely, or namely, arrogance. Boring, arrogant, uninteresting, un-innovative gothics. I believe this issue has been exhausted.

I propose that we build a giant cannon, gather up all the gothics, pack them into the cannon, and launch them into a brick wall.
SLAM.
No more goths. Maybe then they'd have a reason to be depressed. That is, if any of them lived. They're all so pale and weak that a mere launch into a brick wall might finish them off.

(all of this has been taken and slightly altered from www.thebestpageintheuniverse.com, http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.n et/c.cgi?u=gothics, http://www.thebestpageintheuniver se.net/c.cgi?u=gothagain)

credits to maddox
Lets face it Goths blow and if i had the chance i wud kill u by giving u aids
by SomeChavFromEssexButWotYouGunnaDo? December 14, 2006
1 - Adj.
An art and architectural style often involving towers, gargoyles, and spires. May also describe people who lived in the time and places that these buildings and pieces were constructed or painted.

2 - N.
A type of person, divided into two sub-categories:
A) Emo (ee' - moe) Goth -
The original goth, someone who believes that their life is horrible or mediocre at best, and therefor writes poetry that often includes the word "nihilistic" and love songs. Using bands like Death Cab for Cutie and Brand New to think for them, Emo Goths dye their hair black or red, avoid all eye contact if possible, and flip their long, unkempt hair to the side every so often. They have a habit of staring at the floor and scratching the back of their head with their arms crossed.

B) Hot Topic Goth -
At first, 14-year-olds who enjoyed the Emo look (dyed black hair, old clothes), but did not understand the music (as if there was anything to understand). They were not typically accepted by the rest of the Emo crowd for one reason or another, and therefor shunned by the most shunned group of society. This group is typically ignored by most humans, except for other Hot Topic Goths, so they will stop at nothing to attract attention to themselves. Most Hot Topic goths are bisexual, have abnormal hair colors (green, red, purple), paint their faces black and white in patterns that would have you believe that they have been crying and have some form of depth, play Dance Dance Revolution, and watch Japanese Anime. Also, every hot topic goth must listen to strictly heavy metal, industrial, house, trance, techno, chemical/acid/breakbeat, J-rock, and J-pop. Most of which don't know the difference in the different electronic music genres of which they listen to, and simply incorrectly classify them all as "techno". Most Hot Topic goths, when asked as to why they dress the way they do, reply that they are "misunderstood" and have that other people will not get it, but it is well understood that it is for attemption, and the misunderstood defense is that of faux depth in a shallow goth's personality.
Look at that goth, he's so understandingly misunderstood.
by TheJew72 August 31, 2005
A sub-culture in high school and early college that have fallen out with popular modern culture. They are also known as non-conformists. Most Goths try to create a "unique" and "original" style by becoming the opposite of what they hate. In doing so, they come to a conformist state of their own and exclude those who aren't "hardcore" or cool enough.
Blake changed his name to Blaque because he's a freakin' Goth.
by Andrew M. Smith August 12, 2005
Another word for nerd. Often enjoys anime and dressing up to distract people from the fact that they're just another boring sissified suburbanite. Very often a confused 13 year old girl having trouble fitting in.
That unattractive girl tried to make herself sexier and more interesting by becoming a goth.
by djangoshootsfirst July 10, 2008
originally interesting original inspiring subculture inspired by the cure. has now sunk to a load of losers dresing in black and leather coats threatening anyone who goes near them with knuckledusters, or even more fatal, the smell that seems to radiate off them. think anybody that smiles is a chav.no-one understands or is good as them even tho they hate themselves. listen to slipknot and korn. clothes must be almost all black, hair must be dyed unless naturally black. goth girls show far much more flesh than wanted by anyone. has two offspring tribes-grungers(look for the nirvana hoodies) and emos(at least 10 piercings, stumbling around blindly due to hair covering eyes.
goth:look at those chavs, have to follow a fashion not like me in my leather coat and offspring hoodie,losers.im gona go cut miself now
by ed666 February 01, 2006
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