Why do you define it? Why bother? The first thing someone does when they're introduced to something is anylize it, and dissect it. why? I don't need a philosophy of a goth to be one. Why do you need to be an expert on one the moment you see one on the street, in a restaurant, we are everywhere. It goes without saying. We have been taken over by what the world envisions it's citizens, by what America envisions it's citizens (especially it's children) to be. It has a fixed view of how we should behave; when we behave out of character you label us instead of adressing us. I can't help but ask why.
Let me startoff by clarifying something that's been a back and forth idea. Marylin Manson isn't REALLY a goth. He's more of a split person. He actually reminds me of Amy Lee; in the sense that the goth side of him is more reserved for the stage. He's not just weird, he's free. He lives the way he wants, not the way you want. At the end of the day it's his life. I said that to say this; why waste your time to criticize something that you've only witnessed from a vague and foggy point of view. you haven't taken the time to know us. If you did you wouldn't have anything to say about us. In the truest sense we are no different than you.
Let me just cut to the chase; my favorite Hollywood line. Goth is, in the oldest form of the word, a German tribe that once sacked Rome. in the not too distant form it started out as a variant of punk. I did a little research and found that the first group to start wearing black was The Doors; eventually their fans took in this look and before long it wasn't just a variant of punk, but a sub-culture instead.
The modern and current sense of the word is a bit difficult to explain. It's been tossed around and toyed with so much that it's become the most unique thing around. It's unreal is what it is. Goth, in the simplest is not an anti-christ cult.You wouldn't believe how many people believe this; and these aren't just a bunch of crazies, but decent respectable people. the easy reason for this is because this isn't too far from what todays society sees. the first thing we did when Columbine came around was stick it to the goths; and if you asked them now...they couldn't tell you why. I even heard a few things being thrown around about the Virginia Tech. I've heard psychiatrist's define us as dour and depressed group of teens who are obsessed with the macabre and have surrounded themselves with the thought that they are alone and that their lives aren't worth living. I'm ashamed to say that when I read those words I wanted to use this person for target practice. I am not depressed, I am fifteen. I just happen to have the luxury of seeing the world for what it really is. We need to stop being defined, this is killing us. We have been tossed around the room so much that I sometimes wish that we could be left alone to rebuild. Don't write what you haven't taken the time to learn.
I was in middle school one day when somebody came up to me. I wanted to kneecap him, if only out of principle.
He said: Why would you do that? Don't you have any decency?
I said: ...WHA?!
He said: Did God kick you to the curb, is that why you're with them satanists freaks over there (he pointed to my friends.)
I said: ...WHA?!
He said: I can help you. see there's there's this church I go to every wednesday and sunday. You can't be gay man (then he whispers...it's a sin, and the nods.)
I said: Okay...so far I said a fraction of a word to you and in the past five minutes i've become both a satanist and gay.
I then said:(sarcastically of course!!) Keep going man...your'e on a roll.
He walked away!! I swear to everyone reading this that it is 100% true. The entire time he never used the word goth.
Someone who likes the darker side of things. They usually listen to death metal and goth music, such as Dismember and Bauhaus. Marilyn Manson is NOT goth. He's just...weird. Real goths are not depressing and suicidal like the posers you see at Hot Topic. Goths are fun to be around and aren't afraid to laugh at themselves every so often. They don't worship Satan and aren't evil despite what some ignorant people might say. Goths don't all dress alike either. They like to create their own unique style. Goths are also very intelligent and creative. A lot of them are writers and artists. Goths DON'T envy the popular people. They are what they are because it makes them happy. Goths would rather stay who they are and be among the so called "freaks" than be like everyone else and be popular. They understand that there are more important things in life than popularity, and usually succeed in life while the popular ones don't become much of anything.
If someone becomes "goth" because they couldn't get any friends or are depressed and angry all the time, they are most likely a poser.
The goth, that thing that lies at the opposite end of the spectrum of society to the chav.more...
A goth will walk alone where a chav will hide inside his herd and though the goth may take a beating at least that goth was never a coward.
A goth will insult only those who have earnt it whereas a chav will insult people for things as shallow as the clothes they are wearing.
A goths insult will be witty and cutting, a chavs insult more often than not will consist of the chav making a repulsive noise.
A goth will enrich their mind, a chav will watch soaps.
In the morning, a goth will ask themselves “what do I want to wear?” whilst a chav will ask themselves “what in this selection of clothes is the most acceptable thing to wear?”
A goth will have a friend because they are good for someone, a chav will have a friend because that someone is good for them.
A goth approaches new situations with a willingness to think and find the best way forward, a chav will react with aggression to that which it does not already know.
A goth will listen to music that is meaningful to their life and thought provoking, a chav will listen to music which will tell him how to behave.
Goths have no interest in popularity whatsoever. They think outside the box. People aspire to be popular and dress in certain ways that are ‘in’ with everyone else simply because it has never occurred to them how pointless societies values really are. In truth, there was never any point to any one of us being born. W...
There are two definitions
1) a person who likes to dress and act differently to the other people in society, normally in black but some like much brighter colours. They tend to be thinkers and more often than not quite creative. They have a satyrical sense of humour, and are able to laugh at both themselves and other people. This type of goth originated in the late 80's with the "death" of punk; goths back then liked the style and the "protection" it offered and so emulated it in their own style. They listen to and appreciate all sorts of good music. They can be gay/depressed/weird/mentally disturbed, but more often than not they are just normal people.
2) an offshoot of the nu-metal clique who think that to *really* piss off their parents they'll dress all in black and talk about death and suicide whilst listening to Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Slipknot because it's "cool". They tend to have very little idea of the other type of goths (or anything else other than themselves for that matter) and will probably change their fashion once it becomes "uncool" again. Thank god.
1) I like this kind of goth and aspire to it.
2) I am not a "goth".
1) A germanic tribe who invaded the late roman empire along with the vandals, visi goths etc and actually became more civilized afterwards.
2) An building style used in medieval times and later in victorian times.
2) A literature style of which Dracula and ther supernateral horrors were written in.
3) A music genre that came about in the 80's as an of shoot of punk.
4) A subculture of people who originally listened to Goth music. Now has increased to fit Industrial and Black/Death metal followers. Goths are typically seen as morbid, wearing black clothes almost all of the time, and wearing make up regardless of sex. Also seen to be more open minded to other cultures, sexualities etc.
5) Prententious people who listen to Nu metal who think they are goths but really teenagers who know nothing of music.
(Goth/Industrial bands: Bauhaust, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails KMFDM. NON-Goth bands: Korn, Linkin Park, SLipknot.)
To a Scally: Someone wearing black clothes, and make up.
To a 12 year old Linkin Park fan: Someone who likes Korn.
To a goth: I'm not a goth!
Really: A tribe of eastern european barbarians that sacked rome in the 4th century. The name of an artistic style, associated with clothing, and architecture
Ok,since this subject seems to be VERY controversal,I'll go through some things you may think and what you don't know,you see,I've actully MET some people who follow the Goth culture(labels suck)
Here we go...
1.Goths are suicidal
-Ok,let me begin by saying anyone can be suicidal,Goths,Preps,Jocks,Nerds,ANYONE.Just because someone dresses in black or listens to Rock music and stuff doesn't make them suicidal.
2.All goths are gay or lesbian
-Once again,this is a topic that anyone may be,not just these guys.
3.Goths are evil/worship satan
-This is what those damn Catholic Fanatics made everyone believe,ok,so they may seem dark or even...scary,but that doesn't make them satanic.Satanism is a RELIGION,not a trend.
4.All goths should die
-I am against the killing of anyone because of their likes/dislikes/looks/tastes.
Hopefully,this guide has given you insite that no matter how different people seem,we all are capable of the same shit.
But,here's one that may save you
If you don't like someone,leave them the fuck alone!Don't waste your life making their's hell because they don't look or act like you.
Oh my god,she's such a goth...
Goth was originally a term used to describe people with a taste for certain bands eg: Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, etc. in the '80s when punk started to fade out, and with wardrobes predominantly black.
In the 90s and early 2000s the goth subculture seemed to change to include bands such as Nirvana, Linkin Park, Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, etc.
Many goths have a cynical outlook on society and have an evolved sense of humor which has gone beyond the "Ya ma" as an insult and will laugh at others, and at themselves in a healthy way. Goths don't usually care what other people think of them, and don't care if they don't fit in. Goths don't care, either what sexuality, religion, etc. other goths are, and we don't take the piss out of gays because we aren't homophobes.
If you shout insults after a bunch of goths, alot of the time, they might not be offended, but take pride that people are realising that they're individuals.
S/He listens to "Gothic rock"
S/He lives a goth lifestyle.