you people are mixing up mall punk and pop punk. pop punk should be called "buzz pop", because when using a term like "pop punk", the real pop punk kids must constantly defend their bands by saying "it's pop punk, but not that shit on MTV." look at lookout records circa 1996-oh, forgot about the queers, screeching weasel, groovie ghoulies, riverdales..all that shit, didnt you? what would you classify that as? those bands are certainly NOT in the same boat as good charlotte and sum 41. i'm not even going to attempt to define "punk rock", because it's annoyingly controversial and no matter how hard you try, people are always going to have different definitions for it. whatever. however, "pop punk", to me, is just simple 3 chord songs pop songs, mostly ramones influenced, faster paced then most regular pop songs, about whatever. shit that doesnt matter. fun. girls. heartache. beer. whatever. its supposed to be fun. i hate when shit is all serious. this is lame. bye.
the queers, screeching weasel, riverdales, apers, riff randells, parasites, mr. t. experience, lillingtons, excessories, flipsides, ruth's hat, teen sensation glasses, after school special, and the entire mutant pop records catalog, for starters.